ok i finally decided what kind of car im going to get, but i dont know which of the 2 there both the same except for the front end and rear end. they both have the 1.8L vvtl-i 180 hp 120lbs of tq and both mated with a 6 speed. but what i like the most about them is my insurace company calls them station wagons lol very cheap insurance. they both run about 15.7 in the 1/4 mile the vibe takeing the slight edge cause of the crappy 2 tone body panels.
does anyone know where i can get general info and specs on these beasts
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I guess if you had to choose which one do you think looks sexier!
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Matrix here. I like the interior on them alot. But then again I havent seen the Vibe much. But based on looks Id go Matrix. The Matrix drives very smooth but its kind of a slouch.
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they are basically the same car
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Matrix here. I like the interior on them alot. But then again I havent seen the Vibe much. But based on looks Id go Matrix. The Matrix drives very smooth but its kind of a slouch.
like sappy said, they are basically the same car, and the interiors are almost identical...
I saw a black one the other day with black/polished lip rims, looked great.
The Toyota is going to hold its value much more than the Pontiac... In 5 years, you'll get double for the Matrix than one would with a Vibe...
MKSkud wrote:The Toyota is going to hold its value much more than the Pontiac... In 5 years, you'll get double for the Matrix than one would with a Vibe...
do you have statistical info on that? or is that just your opinion?
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Go onto KBB or any other pricing site, enter the same miles, options, and everything. See the price difference on the same cars just 3 model years old?
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CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:MKSkud wrote:The Toyota is going to hold its value much more than the Pontiac... In 5 years, you'll get double for the Matrix than one would with a Vibe...
do you have statistical info on that? or is that just your opinion?
The truth is on KBB.COM, for example...
2003 Pontiac Vibe GT, loaded, 43,000 miles, retail: $13,100
2003 Toytoa Matrix XRS, loaded, 43,000 miles, retail: $15,135
But, consider the Vibe most likely originally sold for $1000 - $2000 less (based on out-the-door price, with incentives). So, in reality, resale is actually fairly close between the two.
So... they are mostly the same, I just love the way the Vibe looks so much more...
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CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:MKSkud wrote:The Toyota is going to hold its value much more than the Pontiac... In 5 years, you'll get double for the Matrix than one would with a Vibe...
do you have statistical info on that? or is that just your opinion?
It's fact... A Vibe retails for thousands less because it has a Pontiac badge versus a Toyota badge...
MKSkud wrote:CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:MKSkud wrote:The Toyota is going to hold its value much more than the Pontiac... In 5 years, you'll get double for the Matrix than one would with a Vibe...
do you have statistical info on that? or is that just your opinion?
It's fact... A Vibe retails for thousands less because it has a Pontiac badge versus a Toyota badge...
truth...but half the time parts are going to cost more because they have to go to Toyota to get them.
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Well since the two cars are the same shouldnt the parts cost the same?
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Corolla/RX7 nerd wrote:truth...but half the time parts are going to cost more because they have to go to Toyota to get them.
Actually, believe it or not, at least 95% of the time parts sourced from Toyota are CHEAPER the the exact same part source from GM! Trust me, being a Vibe owner, I tend to shop Toyota for any replacement parts I need. I typically save 10% to 20% over the same part from GM.
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by the way, Bob...the motor you mentioned is NOT equipped with VVTL-i...it's got VVT-i. the L stands for Lift(similar to Vtec), and exists only in the 2ZZ-GE, which is found in the XRS. unless you like buying premium gas all the time, that motor isn't for you.
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i dont mind i have a jet chip in my bu so i put premium in it now plus i cant wait to accually get some decent gas milage lol
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Dave wrote:Corolla/RX7 nerd wrote:truth...but half the time parts are going to cost more because they have to go to Toyota to get them.
Actually, believe it or not, at least 95% of the time parts sourced from Toyota are CHEAPER the the exact same part source from GM! Trust me, being a Vibe owner, I tend to shop Toyota for any replacement parts I need. I typically save 10% to 20% over the same part from GM.
damn.
i'm jealous, then. they didn't do that with Prizm parts - everything comes from Toyota. i figured i could save money by getting GM parts for my corolla, and found out the hard way that i was wrong.
grr. dumb toyota.
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