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Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 8:06 AM
Running the Rapid Fire #5's gapped around .035 if I recall, still getting the flashing CEL while in 3rd gear near redline.

Anybody running something else that has cured this? Any recommendations for gap? Or possibly another plug to try out?

Thanks . Doesn't really bother me as it only occurs near redline but I'd like to solve the issue at hand.






Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:04 AM
It might not be a plug issue or gap issue.......

you might have timing issues............... do you have anyway to check your ign. timing......... it might be off..... what kind of wires are you running......

does everything on your motor have a good ground....... \

Just some thoughts.....

Lee




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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:14 AM
do you have a wideband? mabye your mixtures off.


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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:50 AM
I changed to tr6's and haven't had a problem. Get this, my wife managed to get the cel flashing, but i can't even do that at the track (go figure..cavy doesn't like her). But I gapped them down to .030.

Hope that helps
Nate



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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 9:53 AM
when I see a blinking cel I press the gas harder.... blinking means theres not enough throttle












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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:15 AM
BoostedCavi wrote:It might not be a plug issue or gap issue.......

you might have timing issues............... do you have anyway to check your ign. timing......... it might be off..... what kind of wires are you running......

does everything on your motor have a good ground....... \

Just some thoughts.....

Lee


Wires come on 2.4's now?!



Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:19 AM
my check engine flashed at me too for about the first few weeks... spark plug wirers were gaped perfectly to what gm said to do and every thing was in place.. it just went away one day.... well the check engine light aways came back but never would flash... its because GM made their programe to run slightly on the rich side and that is all your check engine light will be...



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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:28 AM
ac delco # 41-602

give them a try. they can be had at autozone.

them should lower your a/f ratio a little too. (bobby has them plugs and a wideband and i got that # from killerquad)

chances the rapid fire #5 plugs u have are platinum, as they stopped making the non platinum ones.






Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:29 AM
Josh F wrote:my check engine flashed at me too for about the first few weeks... spark plug wirers were gaped perfectly to what gm said to do and every thing was in place.. it just went away one day.... well the check engine light aways came back but never would flash... its because GM made their programe to run slightly on the rich side and that is all your check engine light will be...


2.4s have wires now? and wires have a proper gap? That's news to me AND Jay. The amount of ba terminology on this site grows by the day...it's amazing.



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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 11:51 AM
Jay wrote:
BoostedCavi wrote:It might not be a plug issue or gap issue.......

you might have timing issues............... do you have anyway to check your ign. timing......... it might be off..... what kind of wires are you running......

does everything on your motor have a good ground....... \

Just some thoughts.....

Lee


Wires come on 2.4's now?!


oh HE didn't specify which motor this was happening to........

sorry..

Lee




JDM Civic Hatch
Status: Parting Out Turbo Kit....
14.224 @ 102.01MPH @ 5.5psi.... 2.3 60'
Next: Civic JDM B16a2 w/GSR LSD Turbo - Goal 300whp 1400lbs...
Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:21 PM
Some ppl do run msd on the 2.4 with spark wires but its nothing news, get with the times ppl

I used to have this problem when I had a very lean fuel setup and it happened reguardless of plug or gap, however as soon as i changed injectors and got the afr into the 11s and 12s the problem no longer happened with stock plugs or copper plugs at any gap, so are you lean?



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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Sunday, April 02, 2006 7:00 PM
Jake wrote:ac delco # 41-602

give them a try. they can be had at autozone.

them should lower your a/f ratio a little too. (bobby has them plugs and a wideband and i got that # from killerquad)

chances the rapid fire #5 plugs u have are platinum, as they stopped making the non platinum ones.

Thanks for that, I will give them a shot as I think I've fouled mine out by now. This what you're running at the moment?

I guess I should get some dyno time and make sure a/f ratios are all good, as I'm running quite rich, and always have been. Understand the no cat makes it seem like it, but my gas mileage also shows it, I get horrible gas mileage lately. Though shooting flames is a ton a fun, and people following me while on it love it!







Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Monday, April 03, 2006 8:39 AM
my car hasnt ran since october as it is in storage.
i am /wasrunning the #5 non platinum plugs. but i am going to run them ac delco ones i gave u the # for when the car sees the road..




Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Monday, April 03, 2006 5:53 PM
I have been running the plugs that Jake suggested, as opposed to the NGK TR6s I had in it, and it seems to run a lot smoother, with no misfires or codes. Might want to look into them. Good luck.



Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Monday, April 03, 2006 7:47 PM
QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:when I see a blinking cel I press the gas harder.... blinking means theres not enough throttle











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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:01 PM
Flashing CEL means multiple misfire.... The top end flashing is usually multiple random cylinder misfire, not enough force to jump the gap under the higher boosted compression. I know this is a common problem in J's but I wiould read the code anyway just to make sure.
If that is the codem try gapping them down a little more... nothing? Try different plugs? If you can never find one sweet combination you are going to have to upgrade to a higher energy ignitions system... that or put the orange corners back on. ^_^



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Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Wednesday, April 05, 2006 9:58 AM
M I N I O N - Sinbird wrote:that or put the orange corners back on. ^_^

Boy do I feel the love!

What gap you recommend with the 41-602? Picking them up today.

Thanks again.





Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Wednesday, April 05, 2006 10:43 AM
ive had the 4166 ngk's in mine since i put the s/c on , and gaped around .035


everyone car seams to need different gap to keep from seeing the flashing


id start with a wider gap , then lower it tell it goes away


but i havent had any issues with my .035 gap







Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Friday, April 07, 2006 7:05 AM
The 41-602's gapped at .035 have cured things thus far, guess we'll see if it's true come tomorrow......track day .





Re: Flashing CEL....still.......!
Friday, April 07, 2006 10:01 AM
word

good luck and keep us updated.




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