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new eco 2.4
Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:29 PM
hey i just finally saw the specs for this thing EcotecŪ 2.4L DOHC, 4-cylinder, SFI, aluminum (177 HP [132.0 kW] @ 6600 rpm, 166 lb-ft [224.1 N-m] @ 4800 rpm) i am wondering if anyone has researched doing a swap with this engine @!#$ ill keep the cavy if i can do that. by the way i got the info of pontiac.com the new solstice. sorry if im late and you already now this.

Re: new eco 2.4
Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:35 PM
Its not out yet. It looks like a good motor though. Heres a good link for it: 2.4 Ecotec
Re: new eco 2.4
Wednesday, June 01, 2005 9:14 PM
crackajax wrote:Its not out yet. It looks like a good motor though. Heres a good link for it: 2.4 Ecotec


I bet you that months after it comes out, you'll see some high powered all motor ecotecs just for the fact that it has VVT (Variable Valve Timing).



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:00 AM
Does anyone think that it would be possible to hook up the eco s/c kit to this? Was worried about the electronic throttle but the kit comes with another one and a reflash would fix this right?


Rich
Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:14 AM
rich222 wrote:Does anyone think that it would be possible to hook up the eco s/c kit to this? Was worried about the electronic throttle but the kit comes with another one and a reflash would fix this right?


I was thinking this. It would be a nice engine...



Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:25 AM
NJs Honda Killa wrote:I bet you that months after it comes out, you'll see some high powered all motor ecotecs just for the fact that it has VVT (Variable Valve Timing).


Is that similiar to Toyota engines?

Rob




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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:34 AM
That pdf link above says 170 HP not 177.. Which is the real one? I like the number closer to 180









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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 8:37 AM
i heard that you either need the GM ECM for the 2.4eco or you'll have to use a stand alone.







Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:12 AM
Quote:

Is that similiar to Toyota engines?


Yes, some Toyota engines have VVT

Quote:

i heard that you either need the GM ECM for the 2.4eco or you'll have to use a stand alone.


That's how it goes for most swaps.



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:27 AM
alot of manufacturers have vvt, vct, etc etc




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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 9:33 AM
from what i heard, this engine is bored out from the same block as the 2.2 eco.
boosting a bored out engine is not a good idea since the cylinder walls are thinner



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:01 AM
the 177 figure is the engine in the soltice
Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:24 AM
Hmmmm Looks good.

we'll have to wait and see. Who do you think would be the most likely jbo member to haul off and try to do a swap?




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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:44 AM
^ yea wont take long...



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 10:53 AM
i was lookig into doing a head swap, or the 2.4 interals, to make my 2.2 ecotec have vvt




Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:46 AM
i dont think that will work youde need the ecu also and i dont think the 2.2 and 2.4 ecu besides the vvt are going to be the same...



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 1:39 PM
It would be nice if that thing was underated like the Cobalt SS engine....






Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:01 PM
from what i heard it is closer to 200hp at the flywheel that would be a sick swap into a cav.


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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:12 PM
novaracer wrote:from what i heard it is closer to 200hp at the flywheel that would be a sick swap into a cav.


Acutally it's advertised as 170 HP crank



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Re: new eco 2.4
Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:31 PM
ROBZ IL CAV wrote:
NJs Honda Killa wrote:I bet you that months after it comes out, you'll see some high powered all motor ecotecs just for the fact that it has VVT (Variable Valve Timing).


Is that similiar to Toyota engines?

Rob


VTAK! (VTEC = Variable Valve Timing and Electronic Lift Control System)
Toyota VVT-i
Ford Zetec
the list goes on

I think GM could call it ECOTAK




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Re: new eco 2.4
Friday, June 03, 2005 12:12 AM
Didn't know the Zetec's were VVT...you learn something new everyday



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Re: new eco 2.4
Friday, June 03, 2005 1:07 AM
RAKSJ04 wrote:i was lookig into doing a head swap, or the 2.4 interals, to make my 2.2 ecotec have vvt


that wont work. VVT is not a bolt on



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Re: new eco 2.4
Friday, June 03, 2005 10:40 AM
^ didnt think so...



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Re: new eco 2.4
Friday, June 03, 2005 10:41 AM
99redz24 wrote:
RAKSJ04 wrote:i was lookig into doing a head swap, or the 2.4 interals, to make my 2.2 ecotec have vvt


that wont work. VVT is not a bolt on


It should work actually. Would require a new ECU and alot o wiring changes.. Its just lie swapping a vtech head on a honda.. Same stuff... But in theory is should work.

(But i dont think is worth the money and time)








Re: new eco 2.4
Friday, June 03, 2005 11:00 AM
When GM put out the 2.2l ecotec motor, they said it was made to take new technologies such as VVT. We know that it has to do with the lash, but it will be possible to do. If you do it, you might need to switch to an electronic TB, beacuse i believe all 2.4s will be like that. I'm interested in getting VVT in my car, i will look into it. We have to wait till it comes out. It should be out soon.
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