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A/C compressor problems
Friday, April 13, 2007 9:36 AM
1996 Sunfire GT. My A/C system doesn't work and the compressor clutch is making noise. Can the compressor be used with the clutch plate and coil removed? I don't have money to fix the A/C system at this time and need the compressor in place for the serpentine belt system. Thanks, Dave

Re: A/C compressor problems
Friday, April 13, 2007 10:03 AM
you do not need the compressor,run a shorter belt



15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: A/C compressor problems
Friday, April 13, 2007 1:23 PM
On the 2.4L you need to buy a a/c delete pulley. You can't just run a shorter belt.



Re: A/C compressor problems
Friday, April 13, 2007 2:58 PM
That's funny why is my car running right now with a 350k5 belt?375k5 is stock size for my 98 2.4 with a/c.Yes you can run a shorter belt on a 2.4 although my new belt is squealing a little here and there so just try different belts,maybe a 355k5



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15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: A/C compressor problems
Friday, April 13, 2007 3:57 PM
The compresor bearing maybe causing the noise if so it shouldn´t be too expensive.
Re: A/C compressor problems
Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:50 AM
Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:On the 2.4L you need to buy a a/c delete pulley. You can't just run a shorter belt.


Your right Tom, I need an idler pulley in place of the compressor for the serpentine belt to work. Thanks for everyones response. Dave
Re: A/C compressor problems
Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:43 AM
No Dave,Tom is not correct,many here run shorter belts,do you not listen or search?



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15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: A/C compressor problems
Saturday, April 14, 2007 12:34 PM
BIGGSZ24 wrote:No Dave,Tom is not correct,many here run shorter belts,do you not listen or search?


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to irritate you, but my Helm's factory manual shows an idler pulley in place of the compressor for the 2.4 and a shorter belt for the 2.2. Might you have a part number for the shorter belt for the 2.4, preferably, Goodyear gatorback? Thanks, Dave
Re: A/C compressor problems
Saturday, April 14, 2007 5:16 PM
IMO, and I am not mad, but look at the what Tom said he is correct as far as the a/c delete pulley being what you should run,I am running a 350k5 belt from Autozone and am having issues(squealing)but try a 355k5 or the a/c delete pulley,I just ran the shorter belt cause it was cheaper



15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: A/C compressor problems
Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:41 AM
BIGGSZ24 wrote:IMO, and I am not mad, but look at the what Tom said he is correct as far as the a/c delete pulley being what you should run,I am running a 350k5 belt from Autozone and am having issues(squealing)but try a 355k5 or the a/c delete pulley,I just ran the shorter belt cause it was cheaper


I would also like to do this as cheap as possible. Thank you for your help and the belt numbers. Dave
Re: A/C compressor problems
Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:53 AM
Why not disconnect the clutch electrical connector on the A/C compressor.

I ran my '93 2.2 like this, for months, until I could afford a new compressor etc.


Alont

Re: A/C compressor problems
Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:56 AM
That is what I did before taking the compressor out



15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Re: A/C compressor problems
Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:07 AM
alont wrote:Why not disconnect the clutch electrical connector on the A/C compressor.

I ran my '93 2.2 like this, for months, until I could afford a new compressor etc.


Alont


Alont & BIGGS,
The A/C system was not working and without a charge. To my understanding, you need a charged system in order for the compressor to work. In any event, after I removed the serpentine belt and rotated the compressor pulley, I could hear a metal on metal sound. I have since removed the compressor and compressor clutch plate and still have the metal/metal sound, so I'm thinking maybe the bearing or clutch coil. Luckily I've a 2nd car. Once again, thank you for your opinions, suggestions & experiences. Dave
Re: A/C compressor problems
Sunday, April 15, 2007 7:36 PM
Hi Dave

[The A/C system was not working and without a charge.]

So was mine, I disconnected the electrical connector to prevent the clutch engaging and turning the compressor.

I was going to say that there is an adjustment to the clearance on the clutch but you have obviously sussed that out. The clutch makes quite a noise in a random way when it needs adjusting and there are usually metal shavings/swarf signs around the clutch.

Let us know when you fix it ,please

It does help others

Good Luck


Alont
Re: A/C compressor problems
Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:10 AM
alont wrote:Hi Dave

[The A/C system was not working and without a charge.]

So was mine, I disconnected the electrical connector to prevent the clutch engaging and turning the compressor.

I was going to say that there is an adjustment to the clearance on the clutch but you have obviously sussed that out. The clutch makes quite a noise in a random way when it needs adjusting and there are usually metal shavings/swarf signs around the clutch.

Let us know when you fix it ,please

It does help others

Good Luck


Alont


Alont,
I have the pulley and clutch coil removed and after putting the pulley loosely on the shaft, it spins fine (bearings are good & no noise). I'll have to press the pulley/bearing on the shaft w/o the coil and reinstall the compressor to let you know the final results. Thanks for everyone's help. Dave
Re: A/C compressor problems
Thursday, April 19, 2007 9:24 AM
Pulley is back on the compressor without coil & clutch plate & spins fine with no noise; problem solved until it gets hot. Dave
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