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Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Saturday, September 27, 2008 9:22 PM
Scenario:

1998 Chevrolet Cavalier with metal fuel tank that developped a leak (Quebec + salt = rusted out tank)

Got my hands on a front end smashed 2005 Pontiac Sunfire (Canadian market) with a plastic fuel tank and the pump.

Basicly, I'm looking for the fuel system schematic and Vref values to see if the pumps are interchangable (and if not, what differs as everything is adaptable)

I want to know before going under the car if I need to swap the fuel pump assembly or if everything is plug and play.

Last time I did a Cavalier/Sunfire fuel tank job was way back in early 2005 on a then 210000km 1996 2.4 Sunfire (now at 430000km)

Also, I did use the search and found no post revelant.
Furthermore, if possible, this thread could be used as future reference for tank conversions.

Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 10:19 AM
as far as i have found most of the newer gm pumps are the same from 1998+ im using a 2200 pump on my 3800 and it runs well
Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:45 PM
Hi Mike, well, I went ahead and got both pumps out. both identical.

So I dropped the 98 pump in the 05 tank using the 05 gasket and retainer.
Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:27 PM
why would you use the older pump?


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Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 3:43 PM
plugs in??? lol less work



Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:17 PM

So they are not identical? Or is the pump the same but the electronics not?


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Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Sunday, September 28, 2008 6:49 PM
They are identical. Reason I used the 98 pump is simple:

1. It works
2. Easier, I didn't bother to disconect any hoses.

Took two hours for two guys.
Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Monday, September 29, 2008 4:33 AM
cavmania wrote:So they are not identical? Or is the pump the same but the electronics not?


I believe the sender reads differently on 00+ cars.





Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Monday, September 29, 2008 8:22 AM
i heard 98 are 0-90 ohm and 99+ are 40-250 but car-parts says 98-99 are interchangable

you can't use the 00+ pumps you can use the tank and swap out the pump and sender thats what i'm doin as my 2.4L pump can't supply my 3800SC fast enough



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Monday, September 29, 2008 7:26 PM
Blades Barenfall wrote:They are identical. Reason I used the 98 pump is simple:

1. It works
2. Easier, I didn't bother to disconect any hoses.

Took two hours for two guys.


Is it going to be easier down the road when you have to replace the pump?.. You'll think "Man I should've just disconnected the hoses and put the newer pump in" haha


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Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Monday, September 29, 2008 11:33 PM
cavmania wrote:
Blades Barenfall wrote:They are identical. Reason I used the 98 pump is simple:

1. It works
2. Easier, I didn't bother to disconect any hoses.

Took two hours for two guys.


Is it going to be easier down the road when you have to replace the pump?.. You'll think "Man I should've just disconnected the hoses and put the newer pump in" haha


Original pump @ 327000km !

The 430000km Sunfire also has it's original pump.

There's a secret to long live pumps

Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:30 PM
i would have just used tht pump too its not a preventitave maintenance thing if it works just put it back in

i'm running a cav pump on my 3800 doesn't flow what i need but its got almost 400 000km on it



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:48 PM
So is there anything really of value to puttin gin a plastic tank other than durability to the element. Such as weight reduction?


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Re: Metal tank (98) to plastic tank (05) question
Tuesday, September 30, 2008 2:10 PM
the metal tank pump doesn't sit right in the plastic tank.

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