INFIDEL wrote:So you cant let drain oil go in to the ground...
damn this whole time I thought I was recycling it by doing so... ya know, so it can get pumped back clean like water does...
weird
Chris
come on guys you dont put it in the sewer, you recycle it back into the ground, thats where it came from right? yoru just helping nature along when you pout it out in the grass on your side yard....
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Well, they say oil did come from Dinosaurs...and the attitudes expressed here also seem rather primitive
Makes me wonder how primitive man approached the "spear control" debate. Probably by just spearing his opponents, thereby solving the debate decisively. This may be why they get so frustrated about it now...they can no longer just kill their opponents! Such repression of instinct apparently can lead to some really irrational behaviors...
Thus explaining the vote in '08!
Your on to something man!
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
INFIDEL wrote:Thus explaining the vote in '08!
Your on to something man!
Chris
I can explain the '08 vote in one word. It's spelled P.A.L.I.N.
Hey look, we're gun-related again, it's gone full-circle in 2 posts...
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Nah,
It was all that "hopeie changie" stuff!
EARTH FIRST!
we can mine the other plaint latter.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
How did gun control get turned into used oil in our water tables?
I'm anti gun control btw and think every adult in america should be able to buy and carry a hand gun.
OHV notec wrote:INFIDEL wrote:You have people like that in every "club" rather it be in atving and leaving bottles on the ground, or sleading.
Yeah, I come across a bottle or wrapper every once in a while on a hiking trail, but only in areas popular with tourists and other more recreational users.
Mountain bikers are by far the best when it comes to "pack-in, pack-out", but I think that partially comes with not carrying much in the first place.
Off-roaders can be good or bad, seems to depend more on, um, social class? Obviously the more trendy areas like the sand dunes are basically garbage pits.
But shooters, by far and large, leave more @!#$ than everyone else combined. I've seen a few clean up their cans/bottles/targets afterwards. But I've never seen any picking up shells or clay pigeon pieces.
clay pigeons are biodegradable, no point in wasting the time to pick them up. however, i do always pick up my plastic/brass when target shooting.
side note, reading through this thread makes me even happier that bill got banned.
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Weebel wrote:How did gun control get turned into used oil in our water tables?
Weebel wrote:every adult in america should be able to buy and carry a hand gun.
I
really hope you don't mean that...
RuggedZ wrote:clay pigeons are biodegradable, no point in wasting the time to pick them up
The problem with them is actually the neon colors used. The pieces stand out so much that it just makes the place
look like it's trashed, which is why they are now trying to close these areas off to hobbyists.
RuggedZ wrote:reading through this thread makes me even happier that bill got banned.
+1
fortune cookie say: better a delay than a disaster
Weebel wrote:every adult in america should be able to buy and carry a hand gun.
I
really hope you don't mean that...
I agree, with the exception of felons
No... I REALLY mean that....
Sure maybe the legal age should be 21 and not 18, and if your convicted of a seriousley violent crime or a certain type of felony, maybe you shouldn't have one.
But gun control laws are wrong and its been proven that crime rates drop where a larger percentage of citizens have carry permits or are allowed to carry, it has been proven time and time again.
I honestly believe our government has no place telling average people they cant carry a hand gun, its a basic right, and I stand by what I said.
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The problem with them is actually the neon colors used. The pieces stand out so much that it just makes the place look like it's trashed
And this is why there are not as many wind turbines around..
They "look bad"
Don't like what you see? DON'T LOOK
Any way you cut it with gun control...
Its not up to the feds... BUT It is with in the STATES power to do so.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
Weebel wrote:No... I REALLY mean that....
Sure maybe the legal age should be 21 and not 18, and if your convicted of a seriousley violent crime or a certain type of felony, maybe you shouldn't have one.
But gun control laws are wrong and its been proven that crime rates drop where a larger percentage of citizens have carry permits or are allowed to carry, it has been proven time and time again.
I honestly believe our government has no place telling average people they cant carry a hand gun, its a basic right, and I stand by what I said.
so what your saying is that you want things kept the same but you want goverment to acturally enforce the laws it has on the books.
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that is all.
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LOL
That's FU-KING AWESOME!
HA
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
SNDSGOOD Im just saying that we shouldn't have gun control... and the 2nd amendment should be upheld.... and thats it.... nothing complicated..
Guns arnt dangerous, stupid people are. We need to get rid of the stupid not the guns..
And just because I know someone will ask (as an arguing point).... yes I believe keeping our freedoms is worth lost life even if are freedom directly caused the loss. (ie total lack a gun control causing a few people to die - yes its worth it)
Weebel wrote:SNDSGOOD Im just saying that we shouldn't have gun control... and the 2nd amendment should be upheld.... and thats it.... nothing complicated..
Guns arnt dangerous, stupid people are. We need to get rid of the stupid not the guns..
And just because I know someone will ask (as an arguing point).... yes I believe keeping our freedoms is worth lost life even if are freedom directly caused the loss. (ie total lack a gun control causing a few people to die - yes its worth it)
you can't say you don't want gun control and then in the very next sentance say that criminals shouldnt have it and that you have to be over 18 to own one. that is gun control.
you believe in gun control weeble. you just don't believe in strict gun control.
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Actually, I dont even really believe in that control of it either.... The not allowing criminals to buy them legally thing was just a compromise I would be willing to live with.
I figured it would be a neutral ground that most people could agree on...
But as for just myself, I would be fine with anyone (obviously over 18 I mean come on thats not control thats just called being an adult) being able to walk into a gun store and walk out with a 45 signing nothing but a receipt if they used a card. And if everyone was allowed to have and carry a gun if they wanted, the criminals would be getting shot a lot more to it would even out a bit.
I agree with the idea that regardless the laws, criminals are gunna get thier hands on them anyway.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.
Translation: When catapults are outlawed, only outlaws will have catapults.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
Translation: I have a catapult. Give me all the money, or I will fling an enormous rock at your head.
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I prefer this quote.
"those that pound their guns into plows, will plow for those that do not"
Thomas Jefferson (IIRC)
It basically means that those who give up thier guns will be ruled by the people that keep thier guns
