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Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
“If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. “(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.”
John Wilken wrote:
I don't remember reading about any other guns being tested on protesters, unless you count KSU. This isn't about weapons, it's about making people afraid to protest. The message is clear. If you protest, you'll get zapped with a weapon that they're really not sure what it will do. I bet this will make people think twice before exercising their right to peaceful assembly anywhere near DC.
shawn brynelson wrote:Psssh why not just test them on homeless people, or drifters. Noone will notice there gone
Rosario wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14806772/
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Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
“If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. “(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.”
Im sorry, but you dont test things like this during crowd control situations....
Instead of having the international community mad at us for accidently killing someone in WARTIME, were going to have lawsuits out the ass from people who were injured or killed because of this testing.
Bad idea IMO
Any thoughts?
sndsgood wrote:Rosario wrote:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14806772/
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Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
“If we’re not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation,” said Wynne. “(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.”
Im sorry, but you dont test things like this during crowd control situations....
Instead of having the international community mad at us for accidently killing someone in WARTIME, were going to have lawsuits out the ass from people who were injured or killed because of this testing.
Bad idea IMO
Any thoughts?
think hes more or less saying that if we are using them for crowd control in our own country people would be less likely to say were using some kind of new weapon against their innocent civilians etc. i doubt he's literally saying "lets see if it kills our own kind before we go zap people"
and john wilken theres a huge diffrence between a peacefull protest and a riotest situation. ive been caught in a riot before and its something that needs to be controlled quickly or you end up with deaths and mass destruction and looting etc.
Rosario wrote:[
and john wilken theres a huge diffrence between a peacefull protest and a riotest situation. ive been caught in a riot before and its something that needs to be controlled quickly or you end up with deaths and mass destruction and looting etc.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Microwave weapons?
non-lethal?
Great idea, until someone with no history of melanoma sues.
Rosario: as someone who's been involved in a Riot as well, I see what you're saying, but, I'm not sure setting phasers to Pop-corn is the answer. Current crowd control methods as well as some sonic weapons seem to be working nicely. If some nut is wearing a tin foil hat, then you're going to not only get a show, but a serious burn victim.
BK3K: I think the populace needs a collective enema, why should congress be any different?
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The article stated "crowd-control", not "riot". "Crowd control" could be moving a peaceful protest down 5 blocks and around the corner, as was the case when Bush came to Cleveland. Should people exercising their right to peaceful assembly be subjected to testing a weapon that by the military's own admission "may cause questions about the effects"?
Let the weapon designers stand in front of it to show that it's safe and causes no permanent damage.
John Wilken wrote:Rosario wrote:[
and john wilken theres a huge diffrence between a peacefull protest and a riotest situation. ive been caught in a riot before and its something that needs to be controlled quickly or you end up with deaths and mass destruction and looting etc.
Your not joking...Riots are @!#$ unbelivable..
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Rosario: I saw it, and I agree with you.
And I'm trade-marking "Set Phasers to Popcorn," "Set Phasers to Frozen Pizza," and "Set Phasers to Baked Potato."
SpecialKid wrote:I really want to see what these weapons can do. There should be a big klan rally we could test them out on somewhere.or a political convention...
RaiLS wrote:I think they should test it on the boarder. Mexican/Canadian, you pick.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Heads: you aim at Mexico,
Tails: you aim someplace other than Canada.
'way you go.