Alright, I don't post often but I would like some opinions on this statement from Dub-yah:
"It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority," he said, "and a broader role for the armed forces -- the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment's notice." President George Bush's national address from New Orleans.
the whole speech from CNN
What this says to me is that the worlds most powerful nation just wants more power and more control than ever before.
Isn't it convenient that with every disaster that has happened in America since George W Bush became President a speech with more Government control and a new job for the U.S military is written?
All the other crap he said about a "Gulf opportunity zone" are still just ideas that may or may not happen.
I mean come on, the largest natural disaster hit the U.S and the quest for ultimate power is even more prevalent!
If there is a third world war it will be everyone fighting to save Americans from their own government.
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Its not really a quest for ultiimate power, we are already the most powerful nation.
Notice he said 'Logistical' logistical is not tactical so the more prelavent role of the government, 'Shouldnt' be used for war only critical emergency situations. I.E. Katrina
Of course it will probably get twisted around by someone down the line to use for their advantage.
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we are already the most powerful nation.
Only for the time being China will soon surpass us, they have more cash than they know what to do with right now and an economy growing at 3 times as fast as ours, oh yea they outnumber us 10-1 and they have nukes, we need to improve relations with them NOW, we dont want them as an enemy
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^ ya, or we can Fuk with them now...
but that would never happen... God forbid the goverment let the military run a war.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
God forbid thinking like that becomes populace.
The military isn't supposed to start a war. The best fought wars are ones that are AVOIDED.
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What this says to me is that the worlds most powerful nation just wants more power and more control than ever before.
^ I recognize that the U.S is already the most powerful nation, what I meant was the speech that bush made just seems like he is "tightening the ropes" even further on the American people.
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Of course it will probably get twisted around by someone down the line to use for their advantage.
^^^^ You hit the nail on the head
I understand what the speech was meant to say (more federal involvement to prevent miscomunication and the military getting more responsibility) but I read between the lines and saw that this can be used for the wrong purpose.
It just seems that Bush's answer for everything is more control and a military soloution.
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^^^ It's neo-con doctrine to the hilt.
The First 2 Chapters of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1400048753/qid=1126908993/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-8145478-8263164?v=glance&s=books&n=507846">THIS BOOK</a> have a lot to say about that.
Its an interesting read.
There are a few more that are germaine to the subject, but I haven't yet them.
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silver lightning wrote:Alright, I don't post often but I would like some opinions on this statement from Dub-yah:
"It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority," he said, "and a broader role for the armed forces -- the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment's notice." President George Bush's national address from New Orleans.
the whole speech from CNN
What this says to me is that the worlds most powerful nation just wants more power and more control than ever before.
Isn't it convenient that with every disaster that has happened in America since George W Bush became President a speech with more Government control and a new job for the U.S military is written?
All the other crap he said about a "Gulf opportunity zone" are still just ideas that may or may not happen.
I mean come on, the largest natural disaster hit the U.S and the quest for ultimate power is even more prevalent!
If there is a third world war it will be everyone fighting to save Americans from their own government.
The only thing I can say is where have you been? This did not start with George Bush. He is hardly the man in charge of bigger government. He is just another in a long list of leaders since the 1830's expanding the scope of the federal government. The nation has been on a downward decline since that time.
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The nation tilted into a downward spiral the second the congress divided among party lines.
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meh
just something else for us to do....
Keep me away from anyplace where I'm on the wrong side of a live fire range, that's no fun. I honestly wonder sometimes if I'm going to re-enlist again because of all the combat deployments. I haven't been with my current unit for 2 years yet and I'm already on the Roster to deploy again.
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Jbody2nr wrote:Its not really a quest for ultiimate power, we are already the most powerful nation.
Notice he said 'Logistical' logistical is not tactical so the more prelavent role of the government, 'Shouldnt' be used for war only critical emergency situations. I.E. Katrina
Of course it will probably get twisted around by someone down the line to use for their advantage.
but one thing though....
to be the top nation of power, you have to keep gaining power to keep it that way.....
like any athlete will tell you, the minute you get lax and stop improving, your competitiors will take 1st place...
Saint wrote:Keep me away from anyplace where I'm on the wrong side of a live fire range, that's no fun. I honestly wonder sometimes if I'm going to re-enlist again because of all the combat deployments. I haven't been with my current unit for 2 years yet and I'm already on the Roster to deploy again.
got that right, thats why i didn't reenlist.....this is what happened to my unit
commander- "were going to iraq for 6 months"
unit- "ok no biggie"
6months later
commander- "we've been extended for another 6 months"
unit- "well that bites, but ok, suck it up and drive on"
2 days from redeployment to the U.S.
commander- "great job on spending 96 hours nonstop cleaning all the equpment.....i know your all tired but i have some important news"
unit- "........uh oh"
commander- "guess where were going"
unit- "umm.....home"
commander- "ha ha ha you stupid asses, back to iraq of course"
unit- "aww man are you serious, this is BS"
commander- "don't aww man me......we have a job to do, and youve already been gone a year, whats another 3 months" (at this point he should be glad that we have turned in our ammunition)
then the army wonders why hardly anyone from the 1st armored division or the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment reenlisted
id get out too Saint unless you can find a nondeployable job in the marines
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I'm going to request orders to the Drill Field right before I deploy, spend a year in Iraq and then go to the Drill Field for 3 years. Then put in my Warrant Officer Package, so that right there is about 4 years of non-deploying, but it depends on how this deployment goes. I like the missions that I'm hearing scuttlebutt on, but it's still not official.
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IIRC Tommy Franks asked for 300,000 troops on the ground in Iraq. I guess an extended deployment was a good idea.
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