i know there are questions on here every other day about ls sport lips, but hopefully my question isn't a repeat. i went to gm parts direct and its $98 for a front lip, but then they want to charge $50 to ship it! so i was wondering if anyone actually contacted a dealership to c what they want for one? i know gm parts direct gives an msrp, but that doesn't nec. mean its accurate. so i was wondering if the dealership is much more, or maybe even less than the
$148 that gm parts direct wants for it.
thanks
p.s., i haven't contacted the dealer bc i thought about it today, and the parts department was already closed.
I am not sure about the LS lip but i have ordered parts from them and with shipping it has worked out a whole lot cheaper.
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the dealer is sometimes higher on body parts then GMPD
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I've heard basically avoid the dealership as much as possible, because you know they are going to try to rape you with nickles and dimes.
I find GMPD to be a scam. They state right on their site somewhere that the shipping charge has nothing to do with the actual price of shipping. They just charge you 20% or something.
So basically, take their prices and add that 20% or whatever it is and THAT is what they're actually charging you.
It makes them look like they have good prices but really it's a bait and switch scam.
When I was looking to order my supercharger, they had far and away the lowest price but wanted something like $400 to ship it. heh. Idiots!
I ordered from Pace and paid around $20 for shipping.
Well i have ordered from GM parts direct many times and i always save a good amount of money that what the dealer wanted. Only time i go to the dealer is if i needed a part at that moment. Some parts with shipping i save about $70, so i don't see it as a scam. I will say there was an item i got from the dealer because it was about the same with shipping.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
Wild Weasel wrote:I find GMPD to be a scam. They state right on their site somewhere that the shipping charge has nothing to do with the actual price of shipping. They just charge you 20% or something.
So basically, take their prices and add that 20% or whatever it is and THAT is what they're actually charging you.
It makes them look like they have good prices but really it's a bait and switch scam.
When I was looking to order my supercharger, they had far and away the lowest price but wanted something like $400 to ship it. heh. Idiots!
I ordered from Pace and paid around $20 for shipping.
That is what I have heard. I have never ordered from them.
Any dealer that insists on asking full retail looses my business forever. If you have a decent relationship with teh parts guy, you should be able to get at least trade prices.
Here's another decent place. I ordered an engine from them. Picked it up. Best deal around. They do sell pretty much all the toys.
http://www.crateenginedepot.com/
from their website:
Why does shipping and handling fee seem so high?
Gmpartsdirect.com sells parts near published dealer cost plus a percentage for a shipping and handling fee. This fee is not actual shipping charges only.
The shipping and handling pays for the shipping charges plus our other expenses like web programming, employees, etc. Another way to explain this is, we are selling you the part near published dealer cost, the shipping, and handling pays all of our expenses associated with running the web site. The amount left over after our expense is our profit.
Keep in mind our overall price is a tremendous savings over retail price and in most cases is even cheaper than dealer wholesale shipped to your door step,and without leaving the convenience of the Mouse. Compare the overall price delivered to your door.
(In some cases our site may misprice parts. If you feel the pricing is incorrect please email us and we will glady check on the part number in question)
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
Mylife75 (ajose) wrote:The shipping and handling pays for the shipping charges plus our other expenses like web programming, employees, etc. Another way to explain this is, we are selling you the part near published dealer cost, the shipping, and handling pays all of our expenses associated with running the web site. The amount left over after our expense is our profit.
Right. So they're calling it "shipping" while everyone else in the world calls it "markup". It's misrepresentation and that's why I think it's a scam.
Craig Lewis wrote:Any dealer that insists on asking full retail looses my business forever. If you have a decent relationship with teh parts guy, you should be able to get at least trade prices.
Exactly!!! If you're paying retail at a dealer, you're getting ripped off.
Wild Weasel wrote:
Right. So they're calling it "shipping" while everyone else in the world calls it "markup". It's misrepresentation and that's why I think it's a scam.
We are calling it shipping. It is actually shipping and handling and under that "handling" all what they said is covered. TO call it shipping alone is wrong. Many places do that. Those that have enough over head etc don't do that because it may be in the cost of the item already.
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SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-
#30 to register on
JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
i got mine from Keystone automotive... they make OEM collision replacment parts... Fits just like OEM at half the price
Mylife75 (ajose) wrote:Wild Weasel wrote:
Right. So they're calling it "shipping" while everyone else in the world calls it "markup". It's misrepresentation and that's why I think it's a scam.
We are calling it shipping. It is actually shipping and handling and under that "handling" all what they said is covered. TO call it shipping alone is wrong. Many places do that. Those that have enough over head etc don't do that because it may be in the cost of the item already.
"Handling" fees have always been a scam.
Shipping costs are those you have to pay some other company in order to ship a product. "Handling" the item is an expense that your company incurs in order to deal with a product. That should be paid for out of the mark-up on your cost to buy the product.
This is how selling stuff works. You buy something for a price. You sell it for a higher price. The difference is the money that you have to pay your expenses and turn a profit.
When you start putting spin on stuff so you can charge more while seeming to charge less, I think it's dishonest and a scam.
GMPD isn't charging a handling fee. They're pretending that their markup is something other than markup so they can pretend their prices are lower than they are. Unless of course you think it costs $400 to slap a label on a supercharger kit and ship it out while it only costs a few bucks to do the exact same thing with a bag of bolts.
Wild Weasel wrote:
"Handling" fees have always been a scam.
I know it is to sell stuff it is called marketing it is no scam. So many companies out there are doing it, some of our loved companies do it all the time online. In store they can call it mark up but on line a lot of companies online use the handling part. You want to get customer you do what you can. Jegs, Summit, Nopi, I think walmart had that on an order i did. I shop online a bit.
Some places don't have shipping and handling like Bed Bath and Beyond they have fix shipping rates for certain price ranges So if you item cost so much and is real light you still pay the same shipping. So you can say that is a percentage. If it is a scam everyone is doing it but we are compaining about GMpartdirect.
Stores do it all sort of stuff i have seen some stores and big companies put stuff on sale and their sale is 20% but then some prices were marked up a little and then given a 20% discount. You just shop around that is all. All i will say is GM parts direct has saved me a lot of money.
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"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
so where could i get an ls lip for my 02 cavalier other than the dealership or gmpd? i've tried the junkyard, and no such luck, plus they wont sell it w/o the front bumper...which i dont need...but i guess i could just have an extra bumper sitting around if need be....
keytone automotive? i'll check it out, thanks
anywhere else to look?
i mean nothing wrong with GMPD i have used them so many time some people just making a big deal out of what most companies use to make up money "mark up" or "handling" it is all the same thing. I know another place that sells parts but they came to more than GMPD. I have never had a problem and i have dealt with them for the past 3 years. It is really up to you, it is still cheaper than the dealer.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
