ok first, no i don't work with paint, second, i am a newb to using air tools as opposed to aerosol cans, so that being said
i want to take the whole car down and prime it, if i'm priming it down, does it need to be taken down to bare metal or can primer be done over paint and not end up coming off later down the road with common daily sunlight damage?
next step would be a two tone black and silver for base, this i'm not worried about so skip to next
Metal flake, not like massive coin sized flake just something light that can be seen best at night or whatever, and over the silver too so the question here leads to the next step
i want to use a clear red to go between the base and the fleck and then a few layers over it to give it depth, now, the question here is can i take a small quantity of red paint, and mix it with clear coat to get a clear red, or do i have to order a special paint for this? i'm kind of hoping it's possible, but if it's not, i can do without the fleck and red clear until i can afford it
i think thats it for now. and this may not happen for a while, i still have to decide if i want to shave everything first or just go with what i got, since the body isn't quite wonderful on the beast of a car i have now (i might just do all this to another car with a better body, i haven't decided on that yet either lol)
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primer physically CAN be put over paint...it is highly and i emphasize HIGHLY not recommended
k i figured that, i can get orbital sanders for the paint then.... anyone up for answering the other questions?
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Your other questions (spray can's are WAY different than auto painting... but I"m sure you know that):
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Metal flake, not like massive coin sized flake just something light that can be seen best at night or whatever, and over the silver too so the question here leads to the next step
watch what you're doing with flake... when you spray fine flake you need at least a 1.5 needle in your gun... and to take the filter out of the gun... otherwise it will clog and you'll be SOL
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i want to use a clear red to go between the base and the fleck and then a few layers over it to give it depth, now, the question here is can i take a small quantity of red paint, and mix it with clear coat to get a clear red, or do i have to order a special paint for this? i'm kind of hoping it's possible, but if it's not, i can do without the fleck and red clear until i can afford it
i think thats it for now. and this may not happen for a while, i still have to decide if i want to shave everything first or just go with what i got, since the body isn't quite wonderful on the beast of a car i have now (i might just do all this to another car with a better body, i haven't decided on that yet either lol)
CLear red eh? "Transparent" paint... that's what Kandy/Candee paints are.... transparent/clear paint. I DO NOT recommend putting red base in clear... it won't look good at all. Save up a bit of money and buy some kandy/candee paint.....
er... actually... unless you have a good bit of experience with an auto paint gun (air) That might not be a good idea. Candee/Kandy colors are a little more complicated than "normal" paints. I'd suggest waiting until you get some experience under your belt before tackling it... but if you must... order from X-otic paints... they have the best stuff as far as Candee's go. And if you absolutely must try it now... shoot me an email or IM and I'll explain the proper spraying procedures for Candee colors.
Flake itself is actually rather cheap. Since your not really experienced... I'd recommend adding it to your base. If you put it in your top coat clear... and you have to wet sand and buff it out... you can mess up the flake. Or if ya want to try your luck... use an inter/inner coat clear before your final clear... or if you're doing Candee paint add the flake in that.
Candee/Kandy paints are a little pricey to just play around with if you don't have the experience... but if you keep practicing and such... it may be something to try down the road. If you need any help/tips advice... email me or shoot me an IM.
definitive answers = YAY! lol, first off, from watching alot of television programs, i knew that candee/kandy was diff and had diff steps to do right, and when i got around to it i was going to ask about it ect, but such things being the case and things the way they are it might be a while before i can afford let along try doing that stuff now, the flake, i would still like to do, even if it were just mixed with the base, and then a nice clear coat shell over it, i *Will* have questions eventually so i'll write down your e-mail and put PAINT in the details lol, that way i'll know why i'm e-mailing you lol although i suppose you could just answer some stuff on here, like
1. how any full coats of primer would be best? just enough to cover body work, or more?
2. how many for decent black
3. how many for decent silver
4. what kind of paint do you personally recommend (brands, ingredient base ect)
5 and lastly a twofer, what kind of clear is best, and how many coats will really protect my paint job?
i do realize i'll need some practice, and honestly this car won't be my j-body show piece, so it will be my target practice, sure it's neat and it's not too often you find a four door that has a 5 spd in it from factory, but i am going to want a nice two door down the road, and the idea of a 00-03 cavy with the ecotec is really growing on me (that or a grand prix with a 6 in it, grooowl baby
lol)
"I live my life a quarter mile at a time..." "for those ten seconds or less I'm free"
Mysterio wrote:definitive answers = YAY! lol, first off, from watching alot of television programs, i knew that candee/kandy was diff and had diff steps to do right, and when i got around to it i was going to ask about it ect, but such things being the case and things the way they are it might be a while before i can afford let along try doing that stuff now, the flake, i would still like to do, even if it were just mixed with the base, and then a nice clear coat shell over it, i *Will* have questions eventually so i'll write down your e-mail and put PAINT in the details lol, that way i'll know why i'm e-mailing you lol although i suppose you could just answer some stuff on here, like
1. how any full coats of primer would be best? just enough to cover body work, or more?
2. how many for decent black
3. how many for decent silver
4. what kind of paint do you personally recommend (brands, ingredient base ect)
5 and lastly a twofer, what kind of clear is best, and how many coats will really protect my paint job?
i do realize i'll need some practice, and honestly this car won't be my j-body show piece, so it will be my target practice, sure it's neat and it's not too often you find a four door that has a 5 spd in it from factory, but i am going to want a nice two door down the road, and the idea of a 00-03 cavy with the ecotec is really growing on me (that or a grand prix with a 6 in it, grooowl baby lol)
1. Actually 2 coats of primer would be better
2. black should only take 2-3 coats... if it looks totally black... do one more coat to be safe
3. Silver... same as black. when it looks like it's totally covered, do one more coat to be safe
4. DUPONT!!!! Dupont is MUCH better to spray than PPG. I've used both... I like DuPont better
5. DuPont clear... 2-3 coats. You'll probably have some runs to wetsand and buff out, so whichever you feel comfortable with. The normal amount of coats is 2
