My question is will HPT support the use of a wideband O2 as the primary O2 sensor. I read the stock ECU doesn't like to have a wideband O2 in place of the primary narrow band, can HPT correct this?
Also can I do this with the regular HPT or do I need the Pro version? I know the Pro version has 5 inputs but how many does the standard one have? I am planning on using my lap top for data logging so I don't really need that part of the Pro version. Sorry for the questions but I have been searching for a few hours reading the FAQ's on a few sites but didn't find the answers.
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Never mind, the next thing I read answered it for me.
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The answer is YES, you CAN.
Innovate's WBs have 2 configurable output channels...
I don't know what kind of O2s u guys use (the poster above me claims 0-2Vdc??) but 0-1 is standard and most all widebands have NB sim. EVen if it isn't explicity called such it can be configured as such.
I occasionally use it while tuning... I use an LM-1 portable on the street and have an old O2 pigtail wired to output 2. I remove one of their NBs, pop in my wideband,hook up their O2 NB harness to my second output and we are good to go.
NB emulation through your WB controller...
steve williams wrote:The answer is YES, you CAN.
Innovate's WBs have 2 configurable output channels...
I don't know what kind of O2s u guys use (the poster above me claims 0-2Vdc??) but 0-1 is standard and most all widebands have NB sim. EVen if it isn't explicity called such it can be configured as such.
I occasionally use it while tuning... I use an LM-1 portable on the street and have an old O2 pigtail wired to output 2. I remove one of their NBs, pop in my wideband,hook up their O2 NB harness to my second output and we are good to go.
NB emulation through your WB controller...
The info you posted is correct, but the answer to the question is still no. he asked if HPT can change the way the computer would react to a WB input, you can't. You are correct that most WB have a narrow band output so you can use it in place of your factory O2. I'm not too sure if I would do this because it is going to wear the sensor being used everyday. The way I see it is if you do a correct good tune you should not need a WB on at all times. As long as you have correct gauges for your set-up you will know when something is wrong.
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steve williams wrote:The answer is YES, you CAN.
Innovate's WBs have 2 configurable output channels...
I don't know what kind of O2s u guys use (the poster above me claims 0-2Vdc??) but 0-1 is standard and most all widebands have NB sim. EVen if it isn't explicity called such it can be configured as such.
I occasionally use it while tuning... I use an LM-1 portable on the street and have an old O2 pigtail wired to output 2. I remove one of their NBs, pop in my wideband,hook up their O2 NB harness to my second output and we are good to go.
NB emulation through your WB controller...
Read the question again, he is asking if he can replace his primary O2 sensor with a wideband using HPT. The answer is no. You can use a wideband to tune, but the ECU can ONLY see a narrowband sensor.
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I read the question. It CAN work with his WB with NB simulation.... and needs nothing but the warez that come with the O2, not HPT.... I just have no idea why he'd want to do such a thing.
btw, what the hell kind of O2 do you have that has a 2Vdc out?
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I did make a mistake, its 0-1v, not 0-2v. A Nernst cell O2 sensor outputs between 450mV to 1000mv from lean to rich. The electronics on the ECU cannot handle more than about 1.5v before it throws a code (and much more than that will burn out the electronics). A wideband sensor is typically 0-5v. Unless you use a narrowband output simulation on the wideband sensor (which rarely works, I've tried), you cannot hook a wideband directly to the ecu using any software modifications, HPT or other. There MUST BE a control box that simulates the narrowband between the sensor and the ECU.
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Just to stir @!#$ up...
Speedracer is using the PLX m300 iirc and has it hooked up to the narrowband and drives on it like that daily.
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I did make a mistake, its 0-1v, not 0-2v. A Nernst cell O2 sensor outputs between 450mV to 1000mv from lean to rich. The electronics on the ECU cannot handle more than about 1.5v before it throws a code (and much more than that will burn out the electronics). A wideband sensor is typically 0-5v. Unless you use a narrowband output simulation on the wideband sensor (which rarely works, I've tried), you cannot hook a wideband directly to the ecu using any software modifications, HPT or other. There MUST BE a control box that simulates the narrowband between the sensor and the ECU.
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You need to work with the output handling of your WB controller. I use analog out 2 for NB sim on about 50% of the vehicles I tune and have no problem at all with it. ....READ WHAT I WROTE... I didn't say he needed HPT and I didn't say it could hook up directly to his ECM so drop the straw-man already. I'm not delving into WHY he would want to do this, just merely relating that it's a simple thing to setup and configure with even rudimentary understanding of the systems.
