Motor is going in as we speak. I'll list all the parts in this build. My question is this, other than the injector constant, what else will i need to tune (I HP Tuners Pro) to make this engine safe to drive until i can get dyno tuned.
Intake
Removed exhaust resonator
High flow catalitic converter
2.5 exhaust
Polished Chrome Muffler
Port+Polished 2.4 Head
Bored .020 over
Decked the Block and Head
Knife Edged Crank
Clevite 77 Main and Rod Bearings
New 2.4 valve springs
New retainers and keepers
2.4 Melling Hydraulic Lifters
New Timing Chain
New Crank Gear
New Cam gears (both intake and exhaust)
New Timing Guides x3
New Timing Tensioners
New Timing Tensioner shoe
New Oil Tensioner
ARP Main Stud Kit
ARP Head Stud Kit
10.5:1 Forged Wiseco Pistons .020 over
Cometic .074 gasket
Eagle Rods
Seceret Cams
Stainless Steel 1mm over valves
Pacesetter 4-1 header
RK Sport Upper and Lower engine mounts
Unorthodox underdrive crank pulley
Light weight Alt. Pulley stock diam
MRZ 62mm Throttle Body
2.3 LO manifold bellowed out
Chris F's Adapter Flange for Intake Manifold
2.3 oil pump conversion
Miller Performance Oil Pan
R.C. 440cc fuel Injectors
R.C Fuel Injector Adapter Clips
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
i hope you have a wideband 02 sensor and gauge
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i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
Injector Constant, PE, Spark....
Golden Trojan wrote:i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
if you have to ask this, you should not be messing with it.... Take it to a professional....
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420.5whp / 359.8wtq
Admiral Jedi wrote:Injector Constant, PE, Spark....
Thanx.. im sure timing will be an issue as will the PE. I have the injector constant worked out, I just wanna make sure this all comes together well enough.
ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:Golden Trojan wrote:i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
if you have to ask this, you should not be messing with it.... Take it to a professional....
Thanx for pointing out the obvious. But unless you answer the question, you're just taking up space.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
Golden Trojan wrote:ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:Golden Trojan wrote:i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
if you have to ask this, you should not be messing with it.... Take it to a professional....
Thanx for pointing out the obvious. But unless you answer the question, you're just taking up space.
I did answer the question..... As you said, I pointed out the obvious... If you don't know what you should be changing (and why you are changing it), you should not be messing with it.. Its that simple..
P&P Tuning
420.5whp / 359.8wtq
ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:Golden Trojan wrote:ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:Golden Trojan wrote:i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
if you have to ask this, you should not be messing with it.... Take it to a professional....
Thanx for pointing out the obvious. But unless you answer the question, you're just taking up space.
I did answer the question..... As you said, I pointed out the obvious... If you don't know what you should be changing (and why you are changing it), you should not be messing with it.. Its that simple..
I live 50 miles from anything. I'll be doing the tuning on this myself...until i can drive the car to a proper tuner. In order to make the car go, i need just enough to make it not blow up.. so in other words.. i need answers that actually will help.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
Well you should get ahold of ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 and maybe he can help you over the phone on a tune or something like that to make sure you get it to a shop safely. Instead your being kind of rude to someone that could possibly provide you with tons of information, when asked for correctly. Word on the street is he knows his stuff, so.............maybe you should ask him if he could help you out personally on a one on one basis?
I'm not trying to be rude to anyone.. I'm the only person within 100+ miles that even owns HP Tuners... I'm the only person probably in this state with $6000 worth of work in a cavalier motor. and i'm looking for help. This is my first time working on something with OBDII. I just don't want to make a mistake that may destroy the motor. ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 if i seemed rude to you i'm sorry dude, but im just lookin' for some help before the end of this week when this thing is finally in and i need to make it run ASAP.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
If you change "just" the injector constant and it starts, idles and runs, it should get you to a shop for a dyno tune. Its not like its boosted and you risk hitting 20PSI or something without fuel. Other than that, just don't beat on it until it is fully tuned if you're worried about ruining your new build. I suppose you could set the rev limiter to about 3000rpm, that you could almost guarentee your safe arrival at the dyno shop
oldskool wrote:If you change "just" the injector constant and it starts, idles and runs, it should get you to a shop for a dyno tune. Its not like its boosted and you risk hitting 20PSI or something without fuel. Other than that, just don't beat on it until it is fully tuned if you're worried about ruining your new build. I suppose you could set the rev limiter to about 3000rpm, that you could almost guarentee your safe arrival at the dyno shop
LOL.. no doubt.. 120 miles @ 3 grand on the tach.. that should get me there in a lil under 4 hours..HAHAHA
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
ImPhat0260/Cavattack2000 wrote:Golden Trojan wrote:i do.. Innovative Wideband... but what all exactly do i HAVE to tune other than the injector constant to keep it from melting down.
if you have to ask this, you should not be messing with it.... Take it to a professional....
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LOL.. no doubt.. 120 miles @ 3 grand on the tach.. that should get me there in a lil under 4 hours..HAHAHA
3 grand has nothing to do with how long it will take.
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i've come here for help.. i don't know of anyone within 3 counties that knows anything about tuning. if you guys don't know someone in my area that can tune.. i would deeply appreciate some guidance here.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
As was already said if all you change is the injector constant and don't beat on it which why would you the engine still needs broke in you will be fine.
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Thanks Wade... I did a search and I did find a post that should the high compression pistons won't be recognized...
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=64&i=10353&t=10349#10353 So hopefully after setting the injector constant, and having the VE and PE smoothed out (no dips and spikes) That should give me a good base until i can find somebody around here (this area) that actually knows how to tune.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
If you give us a bit more specific info like what year and model , engine , trans
one of us could prob send you something to upload to get going
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
2000 z24 cavy...4t40e automatic...engine is 2.4 but i've listed everything that's been done to it above... the big concern to me is bigger injectors, bigger t.b, port and polished head, over sized valves.. i'll be using more fuel and more air for sure. I realize nobody can just guess and tune one from the bench without seeing wideband o2, and how every car is different. but i just want to make sure this motor doesn't have issues when it goes from Garage to Home.
When I step on the gas, I want people to think the world is coming to an end! - Homer J. Simpson
bigger TB doesnt really do anything in terms of normal driving, closed loop providing the tune is somewhat decent should keep you ok for easy easy driving, your idle may be a bit rough as well as cold starts
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
