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Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 6:47 PM
I have no idea about tuning and widebands but how hard are they to install and what is a good one to buy?

Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 7:09 PM
Also is there anyone around eau claire, wisconsin that has hpt, I got a tune file I want to try on my car once I get some parts
Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 7:15 PM
[ion] C2 Online
Easy to install, AEM UEGO is a very good one to buy. They come with instructions. You merely need to tap a power and ground wire for power, and weld a bung (threaded ring) onto your exhaust piping just after your header collector so the sensor can screw in.


2001 Olds Alero (LD9)
650 whp / 543 ft-lb
@turboalero
Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 8:33 PM
Thats the hard part, I don't have a welder or access to a good one.
Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 9:11 PM
[ion] C2 Online
You take it to Midas.... or any of your local automotive shops, mechanics, or a performance shop. I wired mine up all the way, left the sensor and wiring tied down in the engine bay and had a shop weld the bung and screw in the wideband.


2001 Olds Alero (LD9)
650 whp / 543 ft-lb
@turboalero
Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, January 09, 2009 9:59 PM
ok, thanks!
Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, February 20, 2009 4:19 PM
I know rasing the dead . . .

What is necessary for the sensor to interface with HPT?

I take it there is a power, gound and signal wire?

How does HPT read the signal from the wideband?





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Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Friday, February 20, 2009 6:09 PM
Tommy Boy wrote:I know rasing the dead . . .

What is necessary for the sensor to interface with HPT?

I take it there is a power, gound and signal wire?

How does HPT read the signal from the wideband?


HP will read any 0-5 volt reference signal. It has AEM and Innovate pre-defined as a PID or sensor .. you just add it. On HPT Pro, its a matter of wiring the output from the wideband (the 5v signal) and the ground to the pins on HPT.

since HPT will log anything, you can do custom sensors as well.. just set the values, and they will be graphed. Once you have the data, you can use that in histograms to tune.

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Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:10 AM
Jason Z24 wrote:
Tommy Boy wrote:I know rasing the dead . . .

What is necessary for the sensor to interface with HPT?

I take it there is a power, gound and signal wire?

How does HPT read the signal from the wideband?


HP will read any 0-5 volt reference signal. It has AEM and Innovate pre-defined as a PID or sensor .. you just add it. On HPT Pro, its a matter of wiring the output from the wideband (the 5v signal) and the ground to the pins on HPT.

since HPT will log anything, you can do custom sensors as well.. just set the values, and they will be graphed. Once you have the data, you can use that in histograms to tune.


Keep a user-defined PID in mind because the AEM gauge may not read exactly what HPT is showing, so you have to adjust the offset on the custom PID until they do match...if you care



Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:10 AM
I guess what I really want to know is can I get just the sensor installed and just hook it up to power, gound, and the hpt somehow, or do I need a gauge or some kind of control box to accomplish this?







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Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:22 AM
[ion] C2 Online
You don't need a standalone gauge if you don't want to. You can calibrate the reading on the laptop using the voltage and the numbers in the manual the wideband comes with.


2001 Olds Alero (LD9)
650 whp / 543 ft-lb
@turboalero

Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:45 AM
So . . .

How do I get HPT to read the wide band on the regular (not pro) version?

My understanding is . . .

1. get the wide band sensor installed in a bung welded into the header collector

2. (Where do I wire the sensor up to?)

Also do I want a 5 or 6 wire sensor or does it matter?







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Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:47 AM
you need the sensor AND CONTROLLER.... you cannot just buy a wideband o2 sensor alone and expect to wire it in to anything.... the controller converts the WB sensor signal into useful data that can be read with a gauge or HPT....

and i may be wrong... but i am fairly certain only HPT pro can read custom inputs. the standard version only reads what comes through the obd port (and your wideband doesnt).



Re: Wideband, dumb question?
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:16 AM
Thank you that is what I wanted to know!





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