Im thinking of getting a motorcycle, whats a good starter? I kinda want something that has a decent power, and a decent after market.
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Nathaniel wrote:500-600cc bike
DO NOT GO BIGGER for your first bike.
Do not listen to that. Get something that will make you happy. Do not buy a bike that in 3 months or so you will be bored with. Cause then in three or four months you will want a new bike. You will just have to take it easy for a while if you get a larger bike. I learned on a big bike, 1000 GSXR, buddies bike. I am a big suzuki fan, just my opinion, but I do not know what kind of bike you are looking for. Sport bike, cruiser it all depends on your taste.
^ every single bike instructor, pro racer will tell you to start on a 600 or smaller.
and not everyone wants litre bikes. they are diff styles.
but having a starter begin on a liter bike is like havign a 16 year old start off with a vette as their first car. but with even more danger.
if u ride the 600 for 3 months and think u want somethign bigger than sell it for the same price u bought it for and buy a bigger bike. no loss. but u gain experience and u got yoru experience with MUCH less risk of messing up blipping the throttle on a litre bike or not beign able to handle higher weight of the litre bikes.
as i said and as all experienced riders will say, start on a 600 or less bike. PERIOD
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u wont be able to sell it for the same price
at least not around here
other cars, better cars?
Depending on what kind of bike you want......
If you want a sport bike, don't go over a 600. Most experienced riders will never even use a 600 to its potential. Anything bigger is just bragging rights for guys with small (ocks.
If you want a cruiser, i'd suggest starting with a 750-800. Bigger than that, the bikes get fairly heavy, so you should be familiar with handling a bike.
Sappy96 wrote:u wont be able to sell it for the same price
at least not around here
if u only had it for 3 months ud hardly put any miles on it. so it should retail for the same or very close to it when u sell it
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not really
like cars they loose value
other cars, better cars?
Gary wrote:Nathaniel wrote:500-600cc bike
DO NOT GO BIGGER for your first bike.
Do not listen to that. Get something that will make you happy. Do not buy a bike that in 3 months or so you will be bored with. Cause then in three or four months you will want a new bike. You will just have to take it easy for a while if you get a larger bike. I learned on a big bike, 1000 GSXR, buddies bike. I am a big suzuki fan, just my opinion, but I do not know what kind of bike you are looking for. Sport bike, cruiser it all depends on your taste.
^^Don't listen to that! I hate when people tell unexperienced riders to get a bigger cc bike.
Get something that you will be able to learn the basics and then decide if you want to upgrade. 600s are plenty fast and handle great......IMO.
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Tribals wrote:Gary wrote:Nathaniel wrote:500-600cc bike
DO NOT GO BIGGER for your first bike.
Do not listen to that. Get something that will make you happy. Do not buy a bike that in 3 months or so you will be bored with. Cause then in three or four months you will want a new bike. You will just have to take it easy for a while if you get a larger bike. I learned on a big bike, 1000 GSXR, buddies bike. I am a big suzuki fan, just my opinion, but I do not know what kind of bike you are looking for. Sport bike, cruiser it all depends on your taste.
^^Don't listen to that! I hate when people tell unexperienced riders to get a bigger cc bike.
Get something that you will be able to learn the basics and then decide if you want to upgrade. 600s are plenty fast and handle great......IMO.
Are you serious you quote me telling him I am wrong then end with IMO. I was giving him my opinion too, if he gets bored of a 600 in three months he is stuck and he will lose money period. Look it up, once you drive the bike off the lot it loses value. There are plenty of "pros" who support what I said. As long as he doesnt go show boating on the road he will be fine with a large bike. They are "plenty fast" what if he wants a faster bike then "plenty fast." I just dont want to see him waste money, unlike you, im telling him to get something he will like. As for his actual question I like GSXR for sport bikes. They have a lot of aftermarket parts and my friends with them have had few problems.
I'm going to learn on a '64 Triumph Bonneville 650. My bike is a '73 Bonneville 750 bored .040 over. I can't learn on a smaller bike cuz I don't know anyone that has one and I can't afford another bike. Course both bikes are pretty much rebuilt from me and my dad so we won't be getting rid of them for at least 10 more years. Any opinions on whether or not that's a good idea for me to start at an older 650? I figure the HP would be lower due to age and all and the bikes are fairly light.
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The size of the bike isn't very important if we're talking about mature individuals. You can cruise a 1000 just as easy as a 600, it's all about how you treat that throttle. I see a lot of the people saying that you might get bored of your first bike. That may be so, but it depends on your activity during your seat time. For those who are interested in taking their bike to a open track day at a local road course, well...most those folks do NOT get bored quick. The reason is, they are more concerned about improving their skills (ie. lap times) than anything else--this can take a lonng time. Most people at the track who have no clue about real riding find out that the guys on the 600 (w/ skills) SMOKE the boys (and yes, some girls) on the 1000+ who aren't so experienced. Now, if you're talking about straight street riding, then yes...bikes can end up a little boring (if you're not doing dumb things on the street). I mean, how hard is it to go straight really fast? Then again, how smart is it to treat the street like a road course? That can get boring to an individual who looks for nothing more than acceleration and top speed. First, decide what you want to use the bike for (the majority of the time), then decide weather you're in it for the real experience..or to just show off on a straightaway or stoplights.
if you want a sportbike you should start off with a 600cc 1998 or newer.sure you can get a bigger bike but it will take you longer to get comfortable which means it will take you longer to become a better rider.the bigger bikes can be ridden just as fast as you want to go,just because its big doesnt mean thats as soon as you open the throttle you'll go 150mph,you control how fast or slow you want to go.BUT the bigger the bike the less forgiving it is of mistakes like leaning the bike over in a bend then hitting a bump in the road,if you're not ready for it you can by accident twist the throttle sharply,a 600 wouldnt have the immediate hit of power a 1000 would which can cause the backend to step out a bit which would scare a new rider while a person thats been ridng a while should be able to come out of it.there's a bunch of little things like that
i would recommend a 2000+ cbr f4i.it quick,low maintance,and if you buy a used one you can sell for close to what you paid for it.read up on one!
im sorry, just in case you dont know thats a HONDA cbr 600 f4i
Gary wrote:Tribals wrote:Gary wrote:Nathaniel wrote:500-600cc bike
DO NOT GO BIGGER for your first bike.
Do not listen to that. Get something that will make you happy. Do not buy a bike that in 3 months or so you will be bored with. Cause then in three or four months you will want a new bike. You will just have to take it easy for a while if you get a larger bike. I learned on a big bike, 1000 GSXR, buddies bike. I am a big suzuki fan, just my opinion, but I do not know what kind of bike you are looking for. Sport bike, cruiser it all depends on your taste.
^^Don't listen to that! I hate when people tell unexperienced riders to get a bigger cc bike.
Get something that you will be able to learn the basics and then decide if you want to upgrade. 600s are plenty fast and handle great......IMO.
Are you serious you quote me telling him I am wrong then end with IMO. I was giving him my opinion too, if he gets bored of a 600 in three months he is stuck and he will lose money period. Look it up, once you drive the bike off the lot it loses value. There are plenty of "pros" who support what I said. As long as he doesnt go show boating on the road he will be fine with a large bike. They are "plenty fast" what if he wants a faster bike then "plenty fast." I just dont want to see him waste money, unlike you, im telling him to get something he will like. As for his actual question I like GSXR for sport bikes. They have a lot of aftermarket parts and my friends with them have had few problems.
If you would read......separate sentence with IMO. I said "Don't listen to that as you said about Nathaniel's comment. What if is looking to buy a used bike....hmmmmm. He never said he was buying a new bike.
Back on topic...... You have very good points about NOT getting a bigger 1st bike. It's your choice in the end, but I am on board with Gooch & Nathaniel on this one. I have been riding for 15 years now and I am glad I learned on a 500.
Thanks all for your help. To clear things up i dont want an expensive new bike untill i am confident of my skills. I will settle for a used one, im kinda eding towards a suzuki gsx-r600 because i heard they handle better. But by no means i am a small guy i weigh almost 240 and am 6'5". When i was younger i always would ride my bicycle trying to make it go asa fast as possible around corners untill i hurt my knee when i slid out the rear tire. Just recently i got back into riding bicycles trying to make my knee stronger and i forgot how fun it was on two wheels.
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Gary wrote:Tribals wrote:Gary wrote:Nathaniel wrote:500-600cc bike
DO NOT GO BIGGER for your first bike.
Do not listen to that. Get something that will make you happy. Do not buy a bike that in 3 months or so you will be bored with. Cause then in three or four months you will want a new bike. You will just have to take it easy for a while if you get a larger bike. I learned on a big bike, 1000 GSXR, buddies bike. I am a big suzuki fan, just my opinion, but I do not know what kind of bike you are looking for. Sport bike, cruiser it all depends on your taste.
^^Don't listen to that! I hate when people tell unexperienced riders to get a bigger cc bike.
Get something that you will be able to learn the basics and then decide if you want to upgrade. 600s are plenty fast and handle great......IMO.
Are you serious you quote me telling him I am wrong then end with IMO. I was giving him my opinion too, if he gets bored of a 600 in three months he is stuck and he will lose money period. Look it up, once you drive the bike off the lot it loses value. There are plenty of "pros" who support what I said. As long as he doesnt go show boating on the road he will be fine with a large bike. They are "plenty fast" what if he wants a faster bike then "plenty fast." I just dont want to see him waste money, unlike you, im telling him to get something he will like. As for his actual question I like GSXR for sport bikes. They have a lot of aftermarket parts and my friends with them have had few problems.
i cant even believe someone would think people are suggesting to a beginner to buy a new bike
u are COMPLETELY wrong. u dotn need to be SHOW BOATING to be on a bike u cant handle. if the bike is too powerfull/too heavy, too large u can go down on a simple take off or even an easy turn. and THAT is wy a beginner should NEVER buy above a 600cc bike PERIOD
and ur NOT telling him to get him somethign he likes, ur trying to get a beginner into a world of hurt and its STUPID.
not only should NO beginner start on anything bigger than 600 but they should NEVER buy a NEW bike either (since that seems to eb what ur suggesting as well)
i guess sappy must have thought the same thing.
if i buy a 97 yzfr6 for $3500 and ride it for 3 months i most definitely CAN sell it for the exact same price or damn near close to what i got it for as long as it hadnt been dropped or broken since it was bought.
and that ^^^^ is what i was trying to say. ( no way in the wolrd would i be talkign about new bike depreciation in a beginner bike thread since NO beginner should ever be on a brand new bike in the first place)
but anyways man, u have the facts laid out by experienced riders with smart heads on their shoulders. and we have the majority in this thread and all other discussions anywhere so i think u know who to listen to.
convos with peopel liek this get me VERY steamed. almost as much as seeign dip@!#$s wearing short tees and shorts and tennis shoes riding on the freeway on their "stunter" gsxr
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Yamaha YZF600R
I used to own one. 600cc, Brakes with an R1, Handles like a dream, rides more comfortably than any sport bike I have ever riden. GREAT first time bike, PLUS ITS CHEAP AND GOOD LOOKING.
Low 11sec 1/4 mile
$7,000 MSRP. Cant beat that.
2004 WR Blue/silver STi
Cobb Stage II
12.69 @ 106.1mph 1.66 = 60ft
Nathaniel wrote:
i cant even believe someone would think people are suggesting to a beginner to buy a new bike
u are COMPLETELY wrong. u dotn need to be SHOW BOATING to be on a bike u cant handle. if the bike is too powerfull/too heavy, too large u can go down on a simple take off or even an easy turn. and THAT is wy a beginner should NEVER buy above a 600cc bike PERIOD
and ur NOT telling him to get him somethign he likes, ur trying to get a beginner into a world of hurt and its STUPID.
not only should NO beginner start on anything bigger than 600 but they should NEVER buy a NEW bike either (since that seems to eb what ur suggesting as well)
i guess sappy must have thought the same thing.
if i buy a 97 yzfr6 for $3500 and ride it for 3 months i most definitely CAN sell it for the exact same price or damn near close to what i got it for as long as it hadnt been dropped or broken since it was bought.
and that ^^^^ is what i was trying to say. ( no way in the wolrd would i be talkign about new bike depreciation in a beginner bike thread since NO beginner should ever be on a brand new bike in the first place)
but anyways man, u have the facts laid out by experienced riders with smart heads on their shoulders. and we have the majority in this thread and all other discussions anywhere so i think u know who to listen to.
convos with peopel liek this get me VERY steamed. almost as much as seeign dip@!#$s wearing short tees and shorts and tennis shoes riding on the freeway on their "stunter" gsxr
Ok so let me get this straight...your an expert hard to believe. Then your telling me no beginner should buy a new bike...but yet you think he is good enough not to wreck the bike? Because, if he lays a bike down it will lose value, correct. So therefor when you said that he could sell it for the same price means he did not lay it. So therefor he wont lay it down but, he is not good enough for a new bike? Sounds like contradiction to me. If a person buys anything below a 600 there is no resell market, at least not here. FACT: Bikes from the schools, which are 500, sit on lots for a long time and end up selling for way less then they were bought for. Don't trust me, my friend had one could not sell it for the life of him and lost a lot of money getting rid of it. Still do not believe me call a school up and ask them about the used bikes. I never suggested a new bike I SUGGESTED SOMETHING HE WOULD LIKE. I mean if its a new bike so be it. Its his bike correct, his money, correct, I am just not going to lie to him and tell him to buy like a 500 and expect to get your money back, new or used. You stated no facts in your argument what so ever you stated opinions. This whole thing is opinions, please do not refer to your word as fact. Who are you? Damn all these experts on this site and yet still you cant read or argue. Please do not put words in my mouth, learn how to argue, maybe Plato and Aristotle could help you there.
Yea man go for the gsx-r they are really nice. Though your kinda big, no offense meant, do you know anyone that has one..or take one on a test drive just to see how it feels to you.
GSX-R and the R6 are basically race bikes, designed for the track. They dont handle as well as others on the street and are less comfortable. On the track however they will dominate. Also, the gsx-r is a uncomfortable bike for bigger guys. It has a fairly small seating area.
I got a 01' CBR F4i and find it to be a perfect mix of performance and comfort. On the street i will not be out handled by the GSX-r and R6, in fact I fell that i have better handling for the streets, such as dealing with rough surfaces and uneven surfaces.
If your looking at a sport bike, look into the CBR's(not RR), the YFZ 600R, or the zx-6.
And Gary you're saying how he should go out n get as big of bike as he wants, your a total retard. And look at wut you ride, a @!#$ box 96' Katana. Hell the newer 500 Ninja's would rape you....hahaha.
The GoOoOch wrote:GSX-R and the R6 are basically race bikes, designed for the track. They dont handle as well as others on the street and are less comfortable. On the track however they will dominate. Also, the gsx-r is a uncomfortable bike for bigger guys. It has a fairly small seating area.
I got a 01' CBR F4i and find it to be a perfect mix of performance and comfort. On the street i will not be out handled by the GSX-r and R6, in fact I fell that i have better handling for the streets, such as dealing with rough surfaces and uneven surfaces.
If your looking at a sport bike, look into the CBR's(not RR), the YFZ 600R, or the zx-6.
And Gary you're saying how he should go out n get as big of bike as he wants, your a total retard. And look at wut you ride, a @!#$ box 96' Katana. Hell the newer 500 Ninja's would rape you....hahaha.
Yea I am also seeking my Ph.D. in college. So excuse me if I could not afford the bike I wanted. Not everyone wants to do manual labor for the rest of their life.
Seriously though are you in like 4 grade. That is a wonderful comeback. lol
