General Motors is considering diesel engines as an option on some models of its next-generation SUVs.
GM is mulling alternative fuels for SUVs built on its GMT 900 architecture due next year.
Diesels certainly would be considered a viable option sometime during the life cycle of this truck. There is some pretty aggressive emission standards coming, and when you move those into the SUV category, the emissions are even more stringent. GM has to balance that and look at capacity and workload.
The EPA's emissions standards for light vehicles will be fully phased in by 2007. The standards make no distinction between gasoline and diesel engines. In other words, a diesel engine must run as cleanly as a gasoline engine.
GM now offers diesel engines on its pickups and vans but not on its full-sized SUVs, except the Hummer H1.
With improvements in design and the addition of cylinder deactivation, GM says its next-generation SUVs, including the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe, will be the first large SUVs to be rated over 20 mpg in combined city and highway driving. That would exceed current versions of the Toyota Sequoia and Nissan Armada. A 2005 two- and four-wheel-drive Sequoia has a combined rating of 16 mpg, and a 2005 two- and four-wheel-drive Armada achieves a combined rating of 15 mpg, according to the EPA.
As part of its launch, GM also will advertise the benefits of its flex-fuel vehicles that are capable of burning E85 - a blend of 85 percent ethanol and 15 percent gasoline - or gasoline or a blend of the two. GM will let buyers know a vehicle is capable of running E85 by adding a yellow fuel cap.
GM has 1.3 million flex-fuel vehicles that can use E85, but there are fewer than 500 filling stations nationwide that carry it. Next year GM will build about 400,000 flex-fuel vehicles.
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Why bio diesel? I dunno about other parts, but here bio-diesel cost the same as regular diesel, and we only have a couple of stations that carry it..
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lone_wolf wrote:Why bio diesel? I dunno about other parts, but here bio-diesel cost the same as regular diesel, and we only have a couple of stations that carry it..
Its not the price thats the issue as much as it is the source of the fuel. Biodiesel is renewable, clean burning, and grown here in the U.S, which is good for our economy.
The more petroleum products we burn, the higher the price goes (demand), the less we have available, and the more money we give to terrorist supporting countries and greedy oil corporations.
With biofuels, we can have unlimited resources, cleaner air, cleaner engines, and support our country all at the same time. Not to mention it would be much cheaper than petroleum if we start mass producing it.
Personally, I'd gladly pay more to have the Biofuel
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But it still contains regular diesel in it.. I still don't think we could consume enough biodiesel to make much difference on our need for offshore oil..
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wesmanw02 wrote:lone_wolf wrote:Why bio diesel? I dunno about other parts, but here bio-diesel cost the same as regular diesel, and we only have a couple of stations that carry it..
Its not the price thats the issue as much as it is the source of the fuel. Biodiesel is renewable, clean burning, and grown here in the U.S, which is good for our economy.
The more petroleum products we burn, the higher the price goes (demand), the less we have available, and the more money we give to terrorist supporting countries and greedy oil corporations.
With biofuels, we can have unlimited resources, cleaner air, cleaner engines, and support our country all at the same time. Not to mention it would be much cheaper than petroleum if we start mass producing it.
Personally, I'd gladly pay more to have the Biofuel
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lone_wolf wrote:But it still contains regular diesel in it.. I still don't think we could consume enough biodiesel to make much difference on our need for offshore oil..
its not about how much we biodiesel we consume. its abotu how much diesel we buy in the first place.
since a biodiesel jetta gets upwards of 60mpg instead of the gas counterpart getting say 28.
so take that number into consideration when u look at the below stats.
If we raise fuel efficiency standards in American cars by one mile per gallon, in one year, we would save twice the amount of oil that could be obtained from the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
Raising it by 2.7 mpg would save enough to eliminate all the oil imports from Iraq and Kuwait combined
Raising it by 7.6 mpg would save enough to eliminate 100% of our gulf oil imports into this country
Source: Environmental Attorney Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
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Can you run bio-diesel in a regular diesel car, or does it have to be made for that type of fuel?? This is really interesting.
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u can even make bio diesel in your garage there was an episode of trucks explaining it
well everyone needs to raise it more so i can use more gas... jk
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lone_wolf wrote:Can you run bio-diesel in a regular diesel car, or does it have to be made for that type of fuel?? This is really interesting.
bio diesel can run on a regular diesel engine
u can grow it in your own backyard as well
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probably the reason its not so popular
because you can get it yourself and not need exxon
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Yeah, there's only 1 Esso station in my area that has it so far. I didn't even know what it was at first.. I wish GM would make small, reliable diesel cars for North America, that would be awesome.
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they may be doing just that as mr goodwrench gt posted in another thread
other cars, better cars?
I'd buy one for sure if they get one in Canada within the next 5 years..
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only problem with bio deisel i heard is the engines are even more senative with it then regualar desiel and if something go's wrong the whole thing goes too hell. talked to a guy i work with who owns a trucking bussniess on the side and his farthers been a truck mechinic all his life said deisel normally areant a problem but when you use bio fuel everything has to be perfect and it's not cheap to fix stuff when it isn't prefect
besides im sure if oil companies wheren't so freaking gready we'd allready have found other renewable feul sources unforuntunantley we can't just make the use of oil dissapeer over night it would bring civilization to a hault and sucks but we all gotta work it out in a resonable time table but as long as someone can make money off oil i don't see that happening
bio fuel and bio diesel are not the exact same thing.
woudl also depend on if u were tryign to run 100% bio diesel or mixed
20-30% petro mix runs perfect no matter what. only thign it can do is loosen deposits in the tank and u would have to replace the injectors 1 time.
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