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attn jeep fans
Monday, September 19, 2005 9:14 PM
cool vid



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Re: attn jeep fans
Monday, September 19, 2005 9:17 PM
Trail rated my a**



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Re: attn jeep fans
Monday, September 19, 2005 9:49 PM
Jabbles wrote:Trail rated my a**


Come on now, I seriously doubt any stock Jeep could have made it up that ridiculous slope, besides maybe a Rubicon Wrangler.

Still pretty crappy though, he must have really rammed that front end into those tree roots to do damage like that.

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Re: attn jeep fans
Monday, September 19, 2005 10:20 PM
Well the interesting thinga bout Trail rated is it's fake. There is no rating, it was a developed marketing idea to reenforce Jeeps go anywhere image. when i reality the only jeep with that capability is the Wrangler. and even then trail rated gets abused.

wanna try something fun/ ask a jeep dealedr what the jeep your looking at is rated....if it's rated then what's it's rating? and who rated it and what testing did they use to determine it's rating. And who are "they" how did "they" get so smart to develop a "rating" for off-roading.

they'll either blubber like idiots, or totally make stuff up. either way it's funny. because Jeep made up the "Trail Rated" tag line/badging. and really the only thing in Jeep showrooms worthy is the rubicon Wrangler. otherwise any other stock jeep needs to be lifted no less than 2 inches for proper clearance and articulation, and have more agressive tires than the gay all season Goodyear Wrangler "light truck" tires they come with to be more trail worthy....unless that's all your going to do ride dirt road trails. but if your hill climbing, rock crawling, stream crossing, or even basic mudding....no stock "trail rated Jeep will do well.

Trail rated is fake. for once i can completely argree with wesman..."The best off-road vehicles are only as good as the drivers behind the wheel "...



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Re: attn jeep fans
Tuesday, September 20, 2005 5:41 AM
That is what happens when you have @!#$ for ground clearance and decide to go that fast up a hill.

wesmanw02 wrote:I seriously doubt any stock Jeep could have made it up that ridiculous slope


A stock Wrangler (excluding Rubicon) would of made it up that pretty easy. I have climbed some hills bigger than that when I was stock without getting hung out like that dude. I will have to go check and see if my girlfriend still has the pictures from the hill climbs we did a couple years back.

As far as Trail Rated, it is a big marketing ploy. I am kind of ashamed of it because you get people nowadays buying the Jeeps with the infamous badge on the side and think they can do everything and anything imagineable.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: attn jeep fans
Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:03 AM
You know Justin, and now that i think of it it may be wheelbase too. you have a wrangler i have a sidekick. i have video of me blasting up and over hills like that when my kick was bone stock. our cars have a good cpmbo of low overhangs, short wheel base, and decent ground clearance. The liberty is long and lower. so that guy is retard



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Re: attn jeep fans
Tuesday, September 20, 2005 8:46 AM
JAMMIT wrote:You know Justin, and now that i think of it it may be wheelbase too. you have a wrangler i have a sidekick.


Exactly. The Wranglers and Sidekicks are pretty good when it comes to doing some steep hill climbs and even when going down some steep hills with pretty extreme departure angles.

I feel that the video shows driver error and not enough knowledge on what to do correctly. I still feel for the guy though, because parts to replace what he broke do not come cheap.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: attn jeep fans
Tuesday, September 20, 2005 2:04 PM
Justin Cox wrote:As far as Trail Rated, it is a big marketing ploy

Thats why I said in my earlier post
Quote:

Trail rated my a**
it wasn't anything against the Jeep but Jeeps marketing. They talk about this trail rated but what does it really mean? People assume they can do anything.



AmazingJay
Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:34 AM
just some revenge for the anit hummer post lol



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Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:50 AM
Jabbles wrote:
Thats why I said in my earlier post


Oh, I think I just read it wrong, my fault

Sappy96 wrote:just some revenge for the anit hummer post lol


I give some props to the Hummer guys that take their rigs on trails. Here are some shots from Paragon up around my area of some Hummers tearing it up.







The first two pictures show how good a LWB vehcile would do compared to a SWB on that particular obstacle.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:55 AM
youa re in pa right



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Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:58 AM
Ah yes, those are REAL Hummers though. no doubt those are the bomb. H2 and H3 however is as off-roadable as that Liberty.



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Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 6:59 AM
Sappy96 wrote:youa re in pa right


yup. I am located in southern PA. I am about 2 hours from Paragon.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:08 AM
i lived in the poconos

the h2 isnt all that bad for an offroad paltform



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Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:24 AM
stock h2 couldn't have made it up that hill either.



Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 7:25 AM
i didnt say it would
i just said its not bad



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Re: attn jeep fans
Wednesday, September 21, 2005 8:41 PM
Yes it is.



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Re: attn jeep fans
Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:01 AM

I'm not a liberty fan whatsoever... It's not a Jeep; it's a marketing
package designed for the ladies. I wish Jeep kept the XJ, and
ran with the Jeep 2500 styling cues (from china)








Re: attn jeep fans
Thursday, September 22, 2005 7:21 AM
^^^ looks like the Jeep comander too me.



Re: attn jeep fans
Thursday, September 22, 2005 8:19 AM

yeah... but its the size of cherokee (its essentially a restyled XJ)
It's a 97+ XJ with a -96 rear section mixed with new styling cues
...also the Commander is new for 2006 while the 2500 has been
around for a very long time now. here are some links:

www.jeep.com.cn/jeep2500/home.html
www.beijing-jeep.com/jeep2500_1.html






Re: attn jeep fans
Thursday, September 22, 2005 4:36 PM
That 2500 is badass! now THAT's a jeep i'd own



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Re: attn jeep fans
Friday, September 23, 2005 12:07 AM
i agree that some new jeeps suck but the wrangler isnt the only jeep decent at offroading...cherokees used to be very decent even stock


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Re: attn jeep fans
Friday, September 23, 2005 4:20 AM
CrSublimeJLC wrote:i agree that some new jeeps suck but the wrangler isnt the only jeep decent at offroading...cherokees used to be very decent even stock


I totally agree. When my girlfriend had her '92 Laredo, that thing would tear it up for being a stock XJ.

I feel in love with that 2500 above. That would be a great thing to introduce now to bring back the Cherokee styling.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: attn jeep fans
Monday, September 26, 2005 7:14 AM
^^^
doesnt the comanchee kinda look like the same style?



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Re: attn jeep fans
Monday, September 26, 2005 8:26 AM
Sappy96 wrote:^^^
doesnt the comanchee kinda look like the same style?


Yup, the Comanche (MJ) and the Cherokee (XJ) share a lot of the styling but also have some differences.

The taillight lenses are different from a Cherokee's, the wheel flares are the same (as a 2dr Cherokee), hoods are swappable from 84-92 models Cherokee's (Cherokee's above 92 used spring-loaded hinges), and all mechanical/electronic parts forward of the firewall ARE identical.

Have a good one,
Justin


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