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Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:43 AM
Jeep Compass





The second of the revolutionary concept models out at this show is the Jeep Compass, also sharing the same platform as the Jeep Patriot. Clearly going after the rally sport crowd, Jeep is looking to the Compass to give the Evo IX and WRX Sti a run for their money. Still sporting the seven-slot grille, Jeep designers have gone for sophisticated rally toughness, rather than trail-rated 4x4 competence. Still, Jeep assures us that this will be the most capable Jeep in its class, with tractive ability at all four wheels that none of its competitors can match. The Compass will run the same 2.4-liter I-4 from the Patriot (and Caliber), but you can expect some power massaging beyond the estimated 170 horsepower predicted for the optional sport package. The second-generation continuously variable transmission is also in the concept Compass, as will be -- we’re guessing -- a six-speed manual transmission. This is a completely new segment for Jeep and will be an important test as to whether buyers are interested in a Jeep vehicle that doesn’t have some type of trail-rated capabilities. We’re told to look for the sporty car-based rally star to compete with Toyota’s Scions, the Pontiac Vibe, and Mazda 3, with a considerable price advantage.


Jeep Patriot





In keeping with Jeep’s new strategy of two vehicles per platform (a la Grand Cherokee and Commander), here come the little guys. Based off the new Neon platform with quite a bit of chassis reinforcement, the Jeep Patriot is the more classically Jeep of the two concepts. Enlarged wheel arches, tall and flat body panels, an upright stance, and a seven-slotted grille are all Jeep design cues deliberately intended to perpetuate Jeep’s robust, strong, and capable 4x4 off-road image. With that said, the Patriot is reported to offer a new 4x4 system that most likely includes a low range gear, and surely will include some type of added traction control device that acts much like a limited-slip, with the intent of making the Patriot the most capable vehicle among its competitors (CR-V, RAV4, Sportage, and Escape). For U.S. markets, expect the engine to be the new 2.4-liter I-4 “World Engine,” mated to the new continuously variable transmission. A new 2.0-liter turbocharged, direct-injection diesel will be offered (only for international markets so far) as well. Look for pricing to be aggressive, hovering just above and just below the $16,000 mark. Production versions could make it to dealerships as early as mid-2007, as a 2008 model.





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Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:54 AM
The Jeep Patriot looks like a Jeep.

The Compass looks nothing like a Jeep, except the traditional grill and headlamps.

I say no to Compass, yes to Patriot.



Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:08 AM
Compass = a liberty with a body kit = gross


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Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:15 PM
I would buy the patriot, definitely.

The compass = t3h b00 b00



Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:50 PM
patriot = not bad
the other one sux



Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:10 PM
I love the patriot.. I hate the compass.. What were they thinking??





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Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:28 PM
yuck





Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:41 PM
I'd drive a compass if it can really give the WRX STi a run for its money for alot cheaper, otherwise its just NASTY looking (not in a good way either)


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Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:23 PM
Jeep should stick to trucks and let Mitsu and Sube make the real rally vehicles. It's obviuos they haven't got a clue when it comes to styling. the Patriot however rocks....but alas without real 4WD Suzukis new 2006 Vitara is the only choice for people wanting a REAL small SUV.



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Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:05 PM
Compas with better headlights would be tits,


The patriot is garbage, typical Jeep rehash.


And anything based of the Neon platform should be shot, gutted, and buried. didn't they learn that with the PT cruiser?





Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:25 PM
I personally don't like either or them. The compass looks too much like a matrix, and the patriot just looks off to me.




Re: Future Jeeps
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:37 PM
patriot is cool but a range rover wannabe




Re: Future Jeeps
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:59 AM
There are some things about the Compass I don't mind and the Patriot doesn't really look like anything new, but I still would pick that over the Compass.

Have a good one,
Justin


Re: Future Jeeps
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:50 AM
WTF is the moron in charge of Jeep thinking??? Jeeps are/were suv's and trucks built to handle offroad as well as onroad and not built off of car chassis! with that said the Compass is UGLY and looks like it came out of a Murano's tailpipe but the Patriot looks like a Jeep. Man I knew the Daimler arm of the company would screw up Jeep but not like this, putting the Jeep name on these vehicles would be a disgrace to it's heritage.







Re: Future Jeeps
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:31 AM
ill take a old flat fender willys







Re: Future Jeeps
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:47 AM
if i pretend its not a jeep the compass is absolutely amazing

looks WAY better than the murano. looks a bit smaller and lighter hopefully as well.


the patriot just looks like jeep boxiness of 20 years ago. didnt liek it then dont liek it now.

ug





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Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 7:11 AM

hehe.... look at all the Jeep models they NEED to introduce
after they scrapped my XJ

I really like the patriot. to repeat everyone else. "it looks like
a Jeep". I would definitely take it over the CR-V, RAV4, or an
Escape. a 170hp+ 2.4L can go a long way if the Jeep stays
around the 3000-3300lbs mark (lets hope).

I don't like the compass. Some styling of its cues seem out
of place: the side markers are left stranded -separated from
the headlights, and the rims are too skinny to match a Jeep
brand item(although we know most consumer model never
see the same, flashy, rims found on the concept model, and
that's a good thing in this case ).

Having said that, I understand Jeep's willingness to expand
its brand. If Porsche could sell an SUV than Jeep can sell a
rally-type wagon. A dirt-road trotting wagon is closer to a trail
rated image than an suv is to a premium sports car. Moreso,
ever since Jeep scrapped the Cherokee in favor of the liberty -
- people have been crying murder (literally). Maybe they're
trying to right some wrongs (and make money doing it at the
same time).






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Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 4:03 PM
I personally love the Compass. Like someone said, pretend its not made by Jeep for a second. Now look at it again. Its pretty radical styling, and this would make a GREAT family car, stylish yet functional

The Patriot is ok



Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 6:36 PM


"pretend its not made by Jeep"


why? is the Jeep brand strickened with leprosy? You guys
have vivid imaginations. Do you pretend your cavalier isn't
a cavalier, or do you act like REAL car buffs and take pride
in what you own?? Honestly, that statement defeats the
entire purpose of making the compass. Jeep wants to brand
its image AND diversify its product-line... Jeep is NOT in the
business of manufacturing pariahs.






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Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 7:50 PM
What im saying is that i keep reading where people are like " What has Jeep been doing" "its not a normal Jeep" Ect... People should like that fact that Jeep is moving away from their Boxy Style



Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 9:47 PM
^ exactly

its GREAT thats its a jeep

but it seems really the only complaint is that it doesnt look like a jeep. so to get past that block pretend its not jeep and then judge the looks. and realize they did a great job wether its their traditional look or not.

i think its going to be a big hit


WAAYYY beter than the b9 tribeca by suby





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Re: Future Jeeps
Friday, September 16, 2005 9:57 PM

ahhhh ok. i see where you're coming from with your point.
still, jeep has to be careful not to alienate its tough image.
Its a chore, I agree, they must take care not to offend their
purist consumer base while they try growing their market
share. I guess time will tell. Personally, I don't have much
issue with the Compass, but I do think some styling cues
need refining.







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Re: Future Jeeps
Saturday, September 17, 2005 12:29 AM
Quote:

I personally love the Compass


basing it off a Caliber, I would assume its more like a Matrix or a Vibe which I love. I definetly like "my" Vibe over my cavalier. The Vibe I drive gets better gas milage, handles better, and has more space than my Cav. All very practical to me.

Quote:

still, jeep has to be careful not to alienate its tough image.


I think thats gone for the most part anyway, it seems to me that most of the peiople I know that drive Jeeps are girls. I know a girl who has a Wrangler, and a Liberty, both have been painted bright pink!


Also, who is to say that these new vehicles wont be tough? maybe tyhe compass will have a very good offroading/rally suspension, and basical rival a WRX wagon.



Re: Future Jeeps
Sunday, September 18, 2005 2:29 PM
JEEP SUX BUY A HUMMER










































































































J/K but i still dont like either of them gotta get an old school one...



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