I was wondering if anyone knew the weight of the engine + tranny of a K20A (RSX-S) and the weight of a 1.9L + tranny from an Saturn SC1?
I'm contemplating the swap. if the engines weight about the same, putting a 200HP engine in a 2300lb car gives quite the power to weight ratio 11.5lbs/HP.
Any help, i searched google but came up empty handed.
www.drluc.ca
i know theres an aluminum 440 out that weighs a wapping 180lbs or so. over 800 horsepower as well.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Luc, hurry with your project man. 
What, that's it. I expected more from the legandary Mr. Goodinfo, i mean Goodwrench.
It will com i just have to make sure i do it right to get exactly what i want.
www.drluc.ca
like 30lbs less then the H22.. what are you wanting to put the k20 in?
H O N D A, oh how well love it when we smokin V8s, all day, every day, it dont stop, Im rolling in my Honda like Im running from the cops.
BUT Now you know, cause you're Jon Doe, in a black bag, a tag on your toe, I built the Honda, I felt the pain, you're victimized with no one to blame, you're just another victim kid.....
you're going to hate me for this but a Saturn SC1.
It's going to be one bastid of a car when i'm done. I'm taking parts from everywhere with reckless disregard for brand loyalty. I want a specific type of car that isn't offered in my price range so i'm going to make it.
My requirements were:
coupe
under 2400lbs
IRS
fast
some aftermarket support
not ugly
capable of handling adequately
enough room for 4 people
So this is what i'm left with:
i was going to try for an LSJ (2.0L SC ecotec) but sourcing out parts was a pain, actually it was not even possible.
So this is what i'm left with:
Honda drivtrain, saturn body, mitsubishi styling.
K20 powered space frame saturn, with an FTO bumper and headlights.
www.drluc.ca
The GoOoOch wrote:i know theres an aluminum 440 out that weighs a wapping 180lbs or so. over 800 horsepower as well.
you musta been watching trucks over the weekend , for that old dodge they are building
the block weights in at 130 bare , the whole motor prob weights alot closer to 400 to 450 pounds assembled
Luc Sipkema wrote:you're going to hate me for this but a Saturn SC1.
oh lord...... well i guess it wont br the first saturn with a honda motor ""COUGH**vue redline**COUGH**... but yeah, what made you deside on this project? why not just use a 92-93 civic lx 4door which stock wieghs 2245lbs. You just like the idea of it being different? if so I can respect that..
H O N D A, oh how well love it when we smokin V8s, all day, every day, it dont stop, Im rolling in my Honda like Im running from the cops.
BUT Now you know, cause you're Jon Doe, in a black bag, a tag on your toe, I built the Honda, I felt the pain, you're victimized with no one to blame, you're just another victim kid.....
Luc Sipkema wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Luc, hurry with your project man.
What, that's it. I expected more from the legandary Mr. Goodinfo, i mean Goodwrench.
It will com i just have to make sure i do it right to get exactly what i want.
Sorrt Luc, I can't help ya on this one.
But I wanted to ask ya, what happend with w41 Quad? 190HP/165Tq. If you can work on the GM charger on it as well it would be really be something.
Think of it... 2300lbs car+ IRS+ 190 or 245HP=
Weeee!
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civic 4doorsleeper wrote:Luc Sipkema wrote:you're going to hate me for this but a Saturn SC1.
oh lord...... well i guess it wont br the first saturn with a honda motor ""COUGH**vue redline**COUGH**... but yeah, what made you deside on this project? why not just use a 92-93 civic lx 4door which stock wieghs 2245lbs. You just like the idea of it being different? if so I can respect that..
yeah it won't be the only saturn, but what about a J? i was looking at putting a J35A3 in my cavy. the same one from the vue, also the acura mdx. 250 HP / 242 ft.lbs. i gotta J-body, why not a J engine
GM calls it the "L66" they swapped the Circle L for it. So, Honda makes 'em, but GM supplies 'em....well, to the GM's that is. at least that's my understanding from what i've been reading online. so a chevy Jbody with a honda J engine....would my car be considered domestic or import?? LOL
but like you luc, i'm trying to find the weight of that 3.5. if it's not too much more then what i already have, i may go with it.
Pss my L47 weighs only 400 pounds. lol and its all aluminum LMAO
may be off by a few, but who's counting LOL. the aurora is another on my list that i'm considering droping in
dude, honestly, most swaps are not worth putting the time money and effort into the J
Dude there is no way a L47 would fit in a J-body, ever, it barley fits in my car
look
there is no way that would ever fit in a j, and if you wanted to drp a N8 in gofor the 4.6.
why go for 250 when you can have 325
Cool. you should try it. I have a k20Z1 motor tranny and all. Too bad its not for my cavalier. Goin in my friends base 03 RSX.
Enthusiast, tell hiim it was stolen , and your very sorry.
and sell it to me , cheap
.
Talk about back from the dead...
A K20 would certainly be interesting in a SC1 though; I've had the idea in my head for some time now, that if anything ever happened to the 'flower I'd pick up a SC for cheap, and swap the LD9 into it, just to be different - a 2300lb car with 150+hp/lb-ft, and some aftermarket struts/springs would be sweet, imo.
"i promise we won't get drunk, and go out in boat in the dark, stand up in the boat and fire the gun into the air unless we have life jackets on."
I know it's back from the dead. I actually did a search this time and this was one of two results i found. and since luc was asking about a honda drivetrain, i figured i'd ask my question about the J35. sorry the thread got off track. but in response to what was said;
It might be a tight fit w/ the L47, but with enough time, money and determination you can make just about anything fit. And as far as dropping a 4.6 in, the only N* that produces around 325HP is the LH2 (320HP) and from what i've found, it's RWD & AWD which i don't want. so, if i go with another N* other then the L47 it'll be the L37. i would think a 4.6 would be bigger than a 4.0 though. it all depends on what i can find. I've seen a couple of N*'s at the junkyard. i'm gonna look for that J35 though. if i remember what i read,(and feel free to correct me if i'm wrong, i've been doing alot of research and reading i might be getting it mixed up) the vue's curb weight is around 3967 lbs. and the Jbody is about 1350 lbs. lighter. so 250HP in a car that's 1350 lbs. lighter??
i can be happy with that. and i don't want to go turbo or s/c, just wanted to try something different
now back to the subject.....engine weights. i already got the performance specs of the honda engine, but if anyone knows where i might be able to find any additional info, i.e. engine weight, dimensions, etc. etc. that would be great.
Not sure why I didn't see this before but from what I've read the K20 is about 450-480 lbs engine tranny and everything...
lol, jersey kid you already have a GSR turbo. Im pretty sure you rape k20s
Right , but not a K20 turbo
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nope the 4.6 and the 4.0 are the exat same sice.
the 4.0 has smallerpistions and a slightly shorter stroke
