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borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:21 AM
I'm going to look at a Camaro today. The vin says its a 305. The lady says its a 350. What are the noticable differences between the two motors?

Thx guys.




Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 9:25 AM
nothing.



what kind of tranny does it have?


and is it stock?


feel free to IM me.


-Borsty
Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:29 AM
You gotta admit thats something nice about honda. Vin says its a 1.8L LS integra motor. Guy says its a 1.8L Type-R hmm just look at the stamp on the block that says B18C5, heh.



Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 10:57 AM
well some years did have stamps and all of them after a certain year did, so i doubht many 80's hondas have a stamp



Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 12:53 PM
actually the block should have a 5.0 or 5.7 cast into it , on the later years , but on the F-bodies you cant see it

check the VIN # on the front of the block , just infront of the passenger side head


what year is it ?


the 3rd gens , the 350 had a higher redline on the tach







Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:34 PM
fbody,.. depends what year, if its a 305, and auto i will be a all 5spd fbodys were 305's.. if its a auto and TPI, its a 350.

chris


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Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:44 PM
TaetschZ24 wrote:fbody,.. depends what year, if its a 305, and auto i will be a all 5spd fbodys were 305's.. if its a auto and TPI, its a 350.

chris



not true, 305 tpis came with autos too.


-Borsty
Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 1:46 PM
so it comes down to what year



Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:20 PM
Borsty wrote:
TaetschZ24 wrote:fbody,.. depends what year, if its a 305, and auto i will be a all 5spd fbodys were 305's.. if its a auto and TPI, its a 350.

chris



not true, 305 tpis came with autos too.
Yep.....my parents had one with the 305tpi & auto tranny.




Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:26 PM
There should be a casting number on the block, however, like mentioned, it is kind of hard to see it.



Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 3:29 PM
TaetschZ24 wrote:fbody,.. depends what year, if its a 305, and auto i will be a all 5spd fbodys were 305's.. if its a auto and TPI, its a 350.

chris


Also, you can't follow the "all 350's were auto" theory anymore because alot of people have done 5-spd swaps onto a 350, factory doesn't mean much 15 years later.




Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 4:32 PM
Its an 87 but it can't be the orig motor if its a 350 because the vin is for a 305. Should be a proud owner of A 350 Camaro in a couple weeks whether its this one or another one.



Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:03 PM
MiKeDiRnTRuLeZ wrote:
TaetschZ24 wrote:fbody,.. depends what year, if its a 305, and auto i will be a all 5spd fbodys were 305's.. if its a auto and TPI, its a 350.

chris


Also, you can't follow the "all 350's were auto" theory anymore because alot of people have done 5-spd swaps onto a 350, factory doesn't mean much 15 years later.



still id say about 70% still have stock drivetrain.



if its stock shes blowing smoke up your ass.


-Borsty
Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:02 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jesus Borsty your like the 3rd Gen F-Body Guru, i dont know much about 3rd gen but i do know a ton about the 2nd Gens. Good luck with the Camaro, hopefully you didnt get the T-tops or hopefully she got them weatherstripped again. Good luck



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Re: borsty/gm guys
Saturday, July 02, 2005 6:26 PM
According to thirdgen.org the only 87 Fbodies that had a 350 were the Firebird GTAs, so unless there was an engine swap...it's a 305.

Here's the info
Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:59 AM
hm, never seen a 305 auto TPI.... what a wast of space. GIVE ME MY 45 CUBES.....

lol

Chris


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Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 7:16 AM
Well guys I got one. Its an 85 with an engine swap. I know the dude real well. Its a built motor good for 400 hp. Its backed by a 700R4 just finshed being rebuilt. The rear end was redone to handle as much power as I can throw at it. It never seen a single winter. New tires brakes and such. Its going to be getting repainted for $850. I'll have pics today or tommorow.

PS.

The T-Tops don't leak!!! This car is so sick.



Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 8:47 AM
nice cant wait for the pics



Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:20 AM
Labotomi wrote:According to thirdgen.org the only 87 Fbodies that had a 350 were the Firebird GTAs, so unless there was an engine swap...it's a 305.

Here's the info



um cant u read?


irocz came with them.


-Borsty
Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:01 AM
^^ You're right, I just skimmed the last line. Don't be an ass
Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 3:28 PM
TaetschZ24 wrote:hm, never seen a 305 auto TPI.... what a wast of space. GIVE ME MY 45 CUBES.....

lol

Chris


Well, my friend has an 87 Iroc-Z Camaro, and it's a 305 TPI/auto tranny. And there are some dumb people who see 5.0 and automatically correlate that with a 350 somehow, so the lady might not really know. Anyways, on the passenger side front of the block, right in front of the cylinder head where it mounts to the block, there will be a serial number stamped, which tells the last 6 digits of the vin, and the group of vehicles it could have been installed in. E.G, Camaro, Carice, Monte Carlo, Malibu, or Chevy truck, Van, ect. And on the rear of the block behind the driver's side head, if it's a 305, it usually has a 5.0 cast into it. The 350's usually have no size casting in that spot.




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Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:38 PM
Borsty wrote:nothing.



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Actually you are part right on this. IF its a 305 HO then it is the same as a 350. But the stock 305's are pooches. My brothers was a 305 HO with a 5 spd behind it. And my friends is a 92 auto with a 305FI in it. but there can be power differences between the 350 and 305.



Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 4:46 PM
Roofy wrote: dumb people who see 5.0 and automatically correlate that with a 350 somehow.




they do look axactly the same form the outside, from a quick glance no one would be able to tell the difference.


-Borsty
Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 6:43 PM
What about the emissions label on the fan shroud or strut tower (not sure in 3rd gens where its at).

It should also say what the OEM engine was on the very top corner. Of course, fan shrouds can be swapped out....


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Re: borsty/gm guys
Sunday, July 03, 2005 7:00 PM
Well no more need to argue over useless facts I found the car I'm buying!!!



350 with vortec heads, cam, intake, carb. (don't know exact specs at this time)

700R4 was just rebuilt with a lower first gear, shift kit, and corvette servos.

Tranny is being put back in in the pics so that's why its in the air. Needs a washing I know.



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