I've done some research and I know it can be done..
Now before some of you bash me for buying a V6 auto to begin with, just spare me. At the time, I needed a car, I was searching for a Trans Am or SS, didn't find anything. I wanted an F-body, found a cheap one and went with it..
I also would rather not hear "you could make the V6 as fast as the LT1 with less cost than a swap." As I've heard before, don't wanna hear that either.
What I want to know, and I know this is the wrong .org, but f-body.org kinda sucks...
Anyway, what am I really going to need? I do want to do a 6 spd swap s well, but for the time being, would the LT1 be ok with my auto tranny?
How much cutting and modding would there be? Basically, what kind of problems would be common and how much modding would I actually need to do, to get it to work?
Price wise, don't worry about that. I'm getting the LT1 hella cheap, and a family friend is going to put it in for me. He just doesn't know it yet.
I'm assuming I need to upgrade the suspension.. But other than that, I really don't know much.
Any help would VERY MUCH be appreciated.
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if u really wanna go for the gold why dont u see if u can drop an ls1 in there instead of the lt1. You might be able to find a ls1 for a reasonable price.
check out ls1tech.com and z28.com.
i hate to tell you this... but everyone is going to tell you to just sell the v6 car and buy a v8 one, they all say its a major pain in the ass to do. I couldnt find any prices but everyone said its cheaper to just buy a car with a v8 in it already.
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i hate to tell you this... but everyone is going to tell you to just sell the v6 car and buy a v8 one, they all say its a major pain in the ass to do. I couldnt find any prices but everyone said its cheaper to just buy a car with a v8 in it already.
Price isn't really going to be an issue. The guy who's going to install it, is going to do it extremely cheap, and the LT1 shouldn't cost me more than a grand, thanks to a few connections my father has.
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if u really wanna go for the gold why dont u see if u can drop an ls1 in there instead of the lt1. You might be able to find a ls1 for a reasonable price.
Even with my fathers friends, that's still gonna run me $700+ more than the LT1, and for what? like 25 extra horse?
I think I'll stick with the LT1.
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-- Reaper -- wrote:Price isn't really going to be an issue. The guy who's going to install it, is going to do it extremely cheap, and the LT1 shouldn't cost me more than a grand, thanks to a few connections my father has.
the whole thing about people saying the cost isnt worth it has to be more then just buying the engine... and they said the wiring is a huge pain in the ass. Just read those sites, sign up, tell them your story, I sure they will tell you just sell it and buy a v8
just found somethin for you off of ls1tech
"There's a lot of things to consider..wiring, suspension, fuel, gauges, hood clearance, all new accessories, engine/transmission, PCM, radiator / cooling fans, etc.. Basically nothing from the V6 will do you any good. The throttle cable is also different,,and you need an LS1 steering rack and K-member. Best suggestion is to buy a crashed donor car, and transfer parts over. There's so many little things to change it's unbelievable."
Yea, I saw some people saying that, and some people saying it was a breeze and a 4 1/2 hour job..
And trust me, by no means would buying an LS1 or LT1 car be any cheaper than this for me. 90K SS with LS1 around here, is 13 grand or so. And that would be the cheapest, and at that price, something is probably wrong with it.
I've looked into buying those cars, to expensive. Even if I was to buy ALL those things, plus the cost of my car, the swap would still be cheaper.
This V6 didn't cost me a lot AT all, and all the LT1 parts will also come extremely cheap to me.
I don't know, we'll see I guess.
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Why LT1 > LS1?
Even though I find there mere notion of this absurd, I'll go with it for a sec...
You can source out a low milage LS1 w. T56 for around 3-4K.
Goto:
www.ls1tech.com
www.ls1.com
I've read several threads on LS1Tech regarding tranny conversions and even Hybrid LS1 swaps... they'll have what you are looking for.
Any reason beside price for the LT1?
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-- Reaper -- wrote:And trust me, by no means would buying an LS1 or LT1 car be any cheaper than this for me. 90K SS with LS1 around here, is 13 grand or so. And that would be the cheapest, and at that price, something is probably wrong with it.
that sucks.. i found a 2000 firebird formula fully loaded with 21k for 15,500. and tons of camaros 13k-15k with about 40k-60k miles on them.
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Any reason beside price for the LT1?
No, that actually is the only reason. Otherwise my desire would be LS1.
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that sucks.. i found a 2000 firebird formula fully loaded with 21k for 15,500. and tons of camaros 13k-15k with about 40k-60k miles on them.
I was just searching around, found a WRECKED Trans Am (99) for 9 grand..
Prices around here are a joke, seriously.
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throw a lt4 kit on a lt1 and youll smoke ls1s all day long.
-Borsty
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throw a lt4 kit on a lt1 and youll smoke ls1s all day long.
You're basically who I wanted to hear from. I'll make my decision based on what you say. LoL.
Guide me oh mighty one.. And I'm dead serious, what do you honestly think I should do?
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LS1 > LT1 screw the LT4 kit get a LS1 and put a charger on it you will get 500hp easy just dont blow it up..
When i was in the market for cars, i looked at the LT1's and LS1's. My uncle(who owns houston performance, and a ford nut) told me that the ls1 is a better design than the LT1(which it is)...25 hp isn't much of a difference off the bat, but add a high lobe cam to both motors and see which one responds better.. The LT1's are good motors, but the ls1's are better by far.
Go to CamaroZ28.com, there are several people on there that have done the exact same swap and can tell you all that is involved.
getting the V6 f-body is got idea... as the insurance will be much much cheaper. & go for teh LS1 or LS6
Till the hood comes off, till the gas runs out, Till my legs give out, can't shut my mouth, Till the smoke clears out - am I high? Perhaps
I'ma boost this @!#$, till the rods collapse
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throw a lt4 kit on a lt1 and youll smoke ls1s all day long.
You're basically who I wanted to hear from. I'll make my decision based on what you say. LoL.
Guide me oh mighty one.. And I'm dead serious, what do you honestly think I should do?
swap the lt1 if you want, i personally think their a better motor for boost. ls1s are nice and all, but if price is holding you back go for the lt1
personally, i know little about the swap other then u need to replace everything.
-Borsty
why not save your self a head ach and get the rk sport super charger for the V6 also if you want a little more then that try www.intense-racing.com and there are whole bunch of 3800 web sites that you could get info from
mrcivilservent wrote:why not save your self a head ach and get the rk sport super charger for the V6 also if you want a little more then that try www.intense-racing.com and there are whole bunch of 3800 web sites that you could get info from
if u would have read his post, he said he doesnt want to beef up the v6 or buy a v8 car.
-Borsty
42zavac wrote:LS1 > LT1 screw the LT4 kit get a LS1 and put a charger on it you will get 500hp easy just dont blow it up..
u cant just slap on a sc and say youll get 195 hp, superchargers give a % of power usually 35% or so. so 305 stock on a ls1 @ 35% is about 420 ish give or take.
-Borsty
just to piggy back what borsty is saying,
keep in mind these are gains with stock intake manifolds and stock exhaust manifolds, not headers.
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1998-02 LS1 F-Body
Description HP Gain Intercooler
'99-02 - 4 psi w/ P-1SC-1 35-40% Twin Highflow
'98-02 - 5, 7 psi w/ P-1SC-1 40-55% Twin Highflow
'98-02 - 8+ psi w/ D-1SC 60%+ Twin Highflow
1993-97 LT1 Camaro / Firebird
Description HP Gain Intercooler
8 psi w/ P600B or P-1SC 55-60% 2 Core
10-14 psi w/ P-1SC 65-85% Twin Highflow
12-20 psi w/ D-1 or D-1SC 75% Twin Highflow
4.5-15 psi H.O. Kit w/ P-1SC call n/a
i did say it was better motor for boost
-Borsty
they make low compression kits for ls1's..
for boost id just go with the LQ4
