Another hot rumor bites the dust lol:

General Motors won't rely on Toyota technology for its hybrid programs.

Nobody knows whether hybrid-vehicle demand will remain at 3 percent of new-car demand or go up to 15 percent, Larry Burns, GM's vice president for r&d, told a Japanese reporter last week. If the market goes up, we have to develop hybrid technology by ourselves.

Rumors have swirled in the Japanese press that GM was near a deal with Toyota Motor Corp. on hybrid technology. The swirl became a frenzy after GM CEO Rick Wagoner and Toyota President Fujio Cho dined privately in Japan two weeks ago.

But Burns - who ought to know, since he heads alternative powertrain research at GM - stuck a fork in those rumors last week in a Nihon Keizai Shimbun newspaper interview.



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making a hybrid car has to be the stupidest thing we could possibly do.. and here's why..

Ok..you make a car that'll get oh, lets say 50mpg...
well, what happens to gas prices?......they'll go up to account for that, until we're making cars that get 1000 miles per gallon, then the gas companies will charge 1000 bucks a gallon...


what we need is cars that get 30mpg, just so we can use up this resource as quickly as possible so we'll be FORCED into finding an alternate source of energy...hybrids will only make the gas companies richer on a larger scale as they'll be able to produce less, and charge more..

Just finished driving a hybrid ford escape around toronto for 10 hrs today.(doing this for ford again tomorrow) City driving you can just about reach 40hrs on 1 tank of gas.. i'd tell you the mileage but theres a contest going on and if i give it up will be no good!

www.scionlife.com wrote:Toyota Denies GM Hybrid Link

Associated Press
May 20, 2005

TOKYO -- Toyota Motor Corp. President Fujio Cho said he affirmed a partnership with General Motors Corp. at a recent meeting with GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner but denied a deal was coming soon to share hybrid technology.

"It's not possible," Mr. Cho said, while acknowledging future talks may produce results.

He said GM and Toyota have been exchanging information about another ecological technology called fuel cells, but they haven't reached a point of developing technology together.

The Japanese media have been rife with speculation that Toyota and GM may come up with a new deal on environmental technology, such as hybrids or fuel cells, as part of a 1999 pact the auto makers have to work together on such technology.

Mr. Cho said Mr. Wagoner, who met with Mr. Cho and other officials last weekend while visiting the Aichi World Expo in Japan, discussed the importance of GM and Toyota ties as a legacy. "We agreed we must make sure this pipeline of partnership grows stronger, not weaker," Mr. Cho said.

Hybrids produce good fuel economy by switching between an electric motor and gas engine, and Toyota has an edge in that technology with its popular Prius sedans.

Toyota and Detroit-based GM have a longtime partnership that doesn't involve stakes in each other. They run a plant together in California.

Earlier this week, Toyota said it will build a hybrid version of its Camry model at its plant in Georgetown, Kentucky, aiming to sell nearly 50,000 of the vehicles a year in the U.S.

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