One of the best move from GM in a long time.
Honda Motor Co.'s powertrains are the new industry benchmark in General Motors' eyes.
Honda's engines and transmissions ranked first among those of six automakers included in an internal GM analysis of the latest J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study data.
Honda powertrains had 15.3 problems per 100 vehicles in the first 90 days of ownership, according to data in the GM analysis.
GM powertrains were second-best on the list -- ahead of Toyota Motor Corp. for the first time in eight years. Toyota ranked No. 1 in the GM analysis last year.
GM would not discuss the calculations it performed on the J.D. Power data to rank itself and five key competitors: Honda, Toyota, Nissan Motor Co., DaimlerChrysler and Ford Motor Co.
J.D. Power does not make its powertrain surveys public, but sells the reports to automakers for internal use. Buying the reports gives automakers access to the consultant's database of survey responses. GM compiled its rankings from the raw data.
GM regularly uses data from J.D. Power studies to study product quality and make improvements.
"Based on the data we have, we do feel that our automatic transmissions are industry-leading," Fruehan said. "Beyond that, I can't comment on an internal study."
According to the GM analysis, GM powertrains had 18.1 problems per 100 vehicles. Nissan ranked third among the six automakers at 18.3 problems per 100.
Toyota, last year's leader in the GM analysis, slipped to fourth this year. Its powertrains had 18.7 problems per 100 vehicles in this year's rankings, compared with 16.4 last year.
DaimlerChrysler powertrains had 24.3 problems per 100 vehicles, GM calculated. Ford had 26.6 problems per 100 vehicles.
Raw J.D. Power data included in the GM analysis indicate that Honda performed well in engine quality. Its engines had 10.1 problems per 100 vehicles in 2005, down from 11.8 in 2004.
GM ranked powertrain quality on a corporate basis, but also produced a ranking of 22 brands. In that list Jaguar came out on top, with 9.3 problems per 100 vehicles. Infiniti was second, and Buick was third, ahead of Toyota's Lexus Division. Cadillac placed fifth in the by-brand rankings of powertrain quality.
The Initial Quality Study, released Wednesday, May 18, asked owners to rate vehicle quality on 135 attributes across nine categories after 90 days of ownership. The categories include ride and handling, engine and transmission and fit and finish.
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woo woo...take that toyota...lol
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honestly most of GM's vehicles problems are not powertrain, its little things like o2 sensors, power windows, little stupid crap that turns the check engine light on etc....
i think GM has always had some of the best powertrains, especially the auto trasmissions, read any review of a gm vechile, they all compliment the auto trans in it
im acctually surprised by toyota, i honstly thought they were way better then honda
i think the auto industry as a whole is getting much better. Look at the spread of the data only 16 problems per 100 vehicles separates 1st and last place. that's not too bad.
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I'd be curious to know how Hyundai's engines were ranked relative to the rest. I didn't see that in the original post. They're coming up fast and nipping on the heels of the Japanese automakers.
The article doesnt really specify what the criteria is for evaluation. But at least the GM boys are using a good benchmark. I sure hope they can surpass it. It's interesting to me that the Toyota engines have fallen so far behind in one year! From first to fourth?
George (geozinger)
'95 Sunfire GT-my second Pontiac from Hell!
'97 Cavy Beater-still running like a champ!
'04 Sunfire - my kid's car, but I get the bills...
'09 Pontiac G6 - Sport Package 1
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i think GM has always had some of the best powertrains, especially the auto trasmissions, read any review of a gm vechile, they all compliment the auto trans in it
Thats is true. I flip through this book with all of the 2005 cars and under cavalier it said something like the automatic transmission is good, shifts quickly.
GM's automatic is the best in the industry period. Rolls Royce and BMW used to use them. One of the smoothest shifting and bulletproof mechanicals from GM. Yhea, it may not have as many cogs as its competition but it gets the job done.
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im curious to know the exact number per nameplate (like ford mercury hyundai saturn, etc)
and with powertrain problems, do they count computer related problems? or is it just engine, transmission, axles, etc?
GM uses the Honda 3.5 VTEC in the Saturn Vue Redline
its fast for an SUV to, 15.5 in 1/4
Till the hood comes off, till the gas runs out, Till my legs give out, can't shut my mouth, Till the smoke clears out - am I high? Perhaps
I'ma boost this @!#$, till the rods collapse
the bentley continental gt uses a gm automatic tranny
