I can't believe I used to like german cars.
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I get a kick out of Hondalover Kenny Tran crowing about the Yaris (I call it the Yawn-us) featuring a timing chain instead of a timing belt. Wow, how "advanced" Can you say "Ecotec"...that did this NINE YEARS AGO? lol.
Bill Hahn Jr.
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World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
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By the way, if one sees a distinct Japanese-loving bias to this article, look no further than its author, Evan Griffey, who used to helm "Turbo" magazine. Evan was instrumental in turning Turbo away from its American-car roots into just another Jap-mag. More yawns.
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
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Bias?....Pot, Meet Kettle.
not 1 domstic car for top 5.
Brocklanders wrote:Bias?....Pot, Meet Kettle.
I call 'em as I see 'em. However, unlike this lukewarm, veiled-agenda attempt at so-called "journalism", I wear MY biases proudly, and without apology. I don't try to disguise my views as "consumer protection" bullsh1t like this "article" did. I limit my opinions to forums and friends, and don't try to brainwash the public by publishing alleged "news".
Biased vehicle owners and modifiers are one thing...biased "journalists" are another thing altogether. I have no respect for such shenanigans.
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
Shenanigans is a funny word
I don't need a @!#$ sig.
After looking at the article, and knowing the author's (and Bill's) history, this is a case where i agree with Bill. LMAO at the timing chain ingenuity...
Quote:
Otto recalls rebuilding two Cooper S engines in the same week: "They were driven through puddles, and somehow water was sucked through the supercharger, destroying the engine. Something is wrong with the design and build."
Jeez!
How many steps to heaven, Doc?
...Ah, metaphysics.
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:After looking at the article, and knowing the author's (and Bill's) history, this is a case where i agree with Bill. LMAO at the timing chain ingenuity...
Ford is doing the same thing with their new ads. "Introducing the newest powertrain innovation from Ford: twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT)." YAY, Ford finally has VVT. Only what, 5-6 years behind GM and GM is never on the ball.
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Tinkles wrote:oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:After looking at the article, and knowing the author's (and Bill's) history, this is a case where i agree with Bill. LMAO at the timing chain ingenuity...
Ford is doing the same thing with their new ads. "Introducing the newest powertrain innovation from Ford: twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT)." YAY, Ford finally has VVT. Only what, 5-6 years behind GM and GM is never on the ball.
And 10 years behind Toyota...
^ ^ And 20 years behind Honda. I think Alfa even had a car in the 80's with some VVT system, but Honda has been using it steady in production cars for decades.
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Fiat did it in the 60s, and Porsche apparently had a similar system that isn't quite the same in the 50s. Technically Honda has been using it for decades, but only because they started in the very late 80s and it is now 2011.
Does chrysler have a VVT system? I've never checked.
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Wait wait wait. Did they just say that the CR-V engine is reliable because its under-revved? I dont see how that has any bearing on its reliability.
I also dont see how they put a Yaris and an xD in the top 5 together. No @!#$ theyre both reliable, theyre the same car and the article even says it. I can imagine theyre quoting out what they dont like too. "The Yaris is reliable, but between the name and feminine styling youre more likely to look like a tree-huggin homosexual driving it." Lets just hack the end off. "Yaris is reliable." Sounds good.
LOLZ. I love the Mini Cooper comments. "Water can be sucked in through the supercharger. Ruining the engine." Yes I can imagine thats inconvenient for the 6 people who drove their car under water. But not as inconvenient as unintentionally accelerating.
I really think I might have to actually agree with Bill on this. The shenanigans in this article are insane.
TheSundownFire (GME Chat) wrote: LOLZ. I love the Mini Cooper comments. "Water can be sucked in through the supercharger. Ruining the engine." Yes I can imagine thats inconvenient for the 6 people who drove their car under water. But not as inconvenient as unintentionally accelerating.
Cracked me right up!
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
gtpsunfire wrote:Tinkles wrote:oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:After looking at the article, and knowing the author's (and Bill's) history, this is a case where i agree with Bill. LMAO at the timing chain ingenuity...
Ford is doing the same thing with their new ads. "Introducing the newest powertrain innovation from Ford: twin independent variable camshaft timing (Ti-VCT)." YAY, Ford finally has VVT. Only what, 5-6 years behind GM and GM is never on the ball.
And 10 years behind Toyota...
Toyota has been using vvt for much longer then 10 years. Not that it really matters.
I can see how people would say hondas are easy to work on. You can debate reliability better motor better car all you want. Whether you like Honda or not they are ridiculiously easy to work on.
I work on domestics all day at work. Chevy is by far much easier then ford. Dodge really depends on the job.
As for imports one thing I really like is they use common sizes on all their bolts. Honda for instance you can pretty much disassemble the whole car with a few different sizes. A big deal? Naw, but it is nice. Ford is horrible about using 3 different size bolts on one bracket.
I think the tech Ford is bragging about is more like Toyota's Dual VVT-i system. Apparently it works a little better than regular VVT systems.
I'd also like to see someone actually quote for me where it states in that article that Toyota using a timing chain is an innovation. I agree the article is balatantly biased toward Japanese cars and bashes on Europeans like a red headed step child, but I can't see anything that says timing chains are an innovation on Toyota engines.
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Tony T Crams wrote: I'd also like to see someone actually quote for me where it states in that article that Toyota using a timing chain is an innovation. I agree the article is balatantly biased toward Japanese cars and bashes on Europeans like a red headed step child, but I can't see anything that says timing chains are an innovation on Toyota engines.
I don't see where anyone used the word "innovation" to describe the Toyota timing chain, or to describe Tran's fawning over it...that is , except you
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:I get a kick out of Hondalover Kenny Tran crowing about the Yaris (I call it the Yawn-us) featuring a timing chain instead of a timing belt. Wow, how "advanced" Can you say "Ecotec"...that did this NINE YEARS AGO? lol.
oldskool wrote:After looking at the article, and knowing the author's (and Bill's) history, this is a case where i agree with Bill. LMAO at the timing chain ingenuity...
You said advanced, oldskool said ingenuity. Neither word was used in the article. I apologize for misquoting both of you. But the fact remains that the article never once called a timing chain "advanced" or "ingenious". It was stated as "over engineered" which has nothing to do with advanced technology or ingenuity. It simply means the engineers chose a timing chain system knowing it would last longer than a belt and therefore reduce maintenance and cost of ownership for the consumer.
2010 Honda Fit LX
Everyone, shhh...
Listen closely, and you'll hear a hair splitting.
Wait. Right there! Just above...did you hear it?
Bill Hahn Jr.
Hahn RaceCraft
World's Quickest and Fastest Street J-Bodies
Turbocharging GM FWD's since 1988
www.turbosystem.com
I heard a mouse fart but no hair splitting.
why are they taking advice on audi's from backwood mechanics in washington because i would prefer a european car to be talked about by a european person
Aaron Herriott wrote:why are they taking advice on audi's from backwood mechanics in washington because i would prefer a european car to be talked about by a european person
By that logic, I take it these backwoods mechanics from Washington probably don't know much about Japanese cars, since well, they aren't from Japan?
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