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89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:39 PM
using an 89 Civic lx (338,000 miles original motor) for my gas miser commute. Well, it used to be a gas miser. Lately, its been down to 22mpg overall. Blowing black soot out the tail pipe with some smoke. Running through a few quarts of oil every couple of weeks, and it has no power. Changed the spark plugs today and they were covered in oil. Replaced them and I have power again, for a while.

Is this likely the piston rings, or do I likely have blown valve seals? Is there a way to tell for certain?


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Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:25 PM
If I had to guess.. Blown valves.




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Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Monday, June 16, 2008 2:11 AM
black = fuel

blue/white = oil

white = coolant

most high mile hondas ive seen needed new valve seals , burning oil usually doesnt hurt mileage in drastic amounts , unless the motor is very tired









Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 9:12 AM
Go with both, and use an oil flush additive next oil change.




Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:06 PM
theres always a differntial cylinder pressure test... or a wet and dry compression test..
Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:24 AM
ok, its not worth the money to yank the motor and rebuild the engine. Replacing valve seals wouldn't be too bad though. Is there a diagnostic to determine which for sure?


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Re: 89 Civic, Bad piston rings or worn valves?
Thursday, June 19, 2008 1:21 PM
now, im really tired right now so nuthings really making sense, but if valve seals are gone, tehn in theory a differential cylinder pressure test can determine if it is really the case or not unless im forgetting something..
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