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Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:49 PM
On this corner we have from Detroit, Michigan priced at the ultimate Viper at $98,110 including an $850 destination charge.That puts the price of the actual ACR upgrade at around the $12K mark.

From DCX....
Even More Viper Venom! Dodge introduces street-legal 2008 Viper SRT10 ACR

• Dodge delivers ultimate purpose-built, street-legal track car
• 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10® ACR offers reduced weight, race-ready hardware and competition tuning for optimal on-track performance
• Aerodynamic improvements, racing suspension and weight savings equal unmatched performance for under $100,000

Dodge announced today that the all-new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR - short for American Club Racer - will make its public debut at next week’s Los Angeles Auto Show.

The latest addition to Chrysler LLC’s Street and Racing Technology (SRT) family of performance vehicles, the all-new, 600-horsepower 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR is a street-legal Viper engineered to dominate on the race track. Because it is street legal, diehard Viper and track enthusiasts can drive their car to the race track, run it at speed on the track, and then drive it home.

“With the all-new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR, SRT has taken the ultimate American sports car and injected it with an extra dose of racing DNA,” said Mike Accavitti, Director - Dodge Brand and SRT Marketing and Communications, Chrysler LLC. “With the Viper SRT10 as the starting point, SRT engineered a combination of reduced weight, race-tuned suspension and aerodynamic improvements to create the ultimate Viper for the street and track.”

Derived from the all-new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10, the heart and soul of the all-new 2008 Viper SRT10 ACR is SRT’s new 8.4-liter aluminum V-10 engine that produces 600 horsepower and 560 lb.-ft. of torque.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR stays true to the five key aspects of SRT: standout powertrain, bold exterior styling, race-inspired interior, benchmark braking, and world-class ride and handling characteristics across a dynamic range.

Bold Exterior Styling
The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR exterior styling cues offer not only bold aesthetics but functional benefits on the track. These include a variable geometry “fanged” front splitter, an adjustable rear wing sculpted by CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics), and optimized front dive planes. These new aerodynamic devices are formed in high-performance autoclaved carbonfiber. By using both unidirectional and woven laminates, the aero equipment is optimized for the minimum possible weight.

The splitter and dive planes feature a clear coated carbonfiber weave on all Viper SRT10 ACR models.

The front splitter includes three removable rub strips that provide protection and wear resistance. Supported by stainless steel tension cables, the splitter is designed to absorb the energy from minor upward deflections.

The Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR aerodynamics are tuned and balanced to maximize downforce and provide increased levels of lateral grip. Each Viper SRT10 ACR also includes a track extension that replaces the center splitter rub strip and fills out the fanged splitter scallop for closed-circuit events. The aerodynamic effect of the track extension is a reduction in overall drag and an increase in front downforce of nearly one third.

The front fog lamps have been deleted and replaced with lightweight filler panels.

The 2008 Viper SRT10 ACR features a signature two-tone paint scheme with a black center section. An optional driver’s stripe is available on a two-tone Viper Red or a Viper Black ACR. The driver’s stripe also features a sewn leather accent on the steering wheel. A clearcoated exposed weave is featured on the rear carbonfiber wing of all two-tone and driver’s stripe Viper SRT10 ACR models.

A standard Viper SRT10 monotone paint scheme is also available featuring a body color rear wing and dual painted Viper stripes.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR is available in five colors: Viper Red, Viper Black, Viper Violet, Viper Bright Blue Metallic, and Viper Very Orange.

Lightweight forged aluminum Sidewinder wheels are painted gloss black to complete the one-of-a-kind exterior styling.

Race-inspired Interior
Based on the 2008 Viper SRT10 interior, the Viper SRT10 ACR goes a step further to satisfy what racers want: the least weight possible. An optional “Hard Core” package offers maximum weight savings by deleting the audio system, underhood silencer pad, trunk carpet and tire inflator. The radio is replaced by a lightweight cover that can be configured to mount the included lap timer. The door speakers are replaced by lightweight carbonfiber panels. The Hard Core package offers a 40 lb. weight savings and provides ultimate street legal race-ready performance.

World-class Ride and Handling
The all-new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR is specifically modified and tuned for track performance. The ACR suspension includes coil-over racing dampers from KW Suspensions that are adjustable for damping and ride height. The shocks are two-way adjustable without removing the wheels - a timesaver on the track - and they include a large range for compression and rebound. The KW dampers and forks are machined from solid aluminum billet, feature spherical bearing mounts, and are optimized to minimize weight and maximize performance.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR features a new front stabilizer bar for increased roll-stiffness.

Lightweight forged aluminum Sidewinder wheels are optimized by using Finite Element Analysis to achieve a lower rotating unsprung mass. Finished in gloss black paint, they wear Michelin Pilot Sport Cup DOT-approved (street legal) race tires, providing enhanced grip on the track.

Track performance is maximized in the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR via several weight-savings initiatives. The savings were achieved with the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Tires, Sidewinder lightweight wheels, and StopTech brake rotors. With the aerodynamic and suspension elements, the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR is 40 pounds lighter than the Viper SRT10 coupe. The optional Hard Core package further reduces the weight by another 40 pounds, for a total weight savings of 80 pounds.

Benchmark Braking
The Viper SRT10 benchmark brakes are taken to the next level in the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR. StopTech two-piece, slotted, lightweight rotors combine with the Viper SRT10’s Brembo calipers to reduce rotating inertia and unsprung mass, improve brake cooling, and significantly reduce fade even under extreme conditions. The StopTech rotors feature a patented curved-fin design, a key element in improving brake cooling. The StopTech brake rotors combined with the Michelin Pilot Sport Cup Tires and Sidewinder lightweight wheels combine to reduce 60 pounds of unsprung, rotating mass. The 2008 Dodge SRT10 Viper ACR stops from 60 mph in less than 100 feet.

Standout Powertrain
The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR utilizes the Viper SRT10’s new 8.4-liter aluminum V-10 engine that produces a ground-shaking 600 horsepower and tire-smoking 560 lb.-ft. of torque. It features a deep-skirted V10 aluminum engine block, cylinder heads equipped with Computer Numerically Controlled (CNC)-shaped combustion chambers, large valves and Variable Valve Timing (VVT). VVT Electronically adjusts when the exhaust valves are open and closed according to engine speed and load, allowing the engine to “breathe” cleaner and more efficiently.

The two-piece intake manifold combines cast aluminum lower with smooth runners for better air flow, bolted to a die-cast aluminum upper plenum. A revised air-cleaner box with a low-restriction filter sends air through a dual electronic throttle control into the intake module.

The air-fuel mixture in the cylinders is ignited by platinum-tip spark plugs fired by individual plug coils mounted on the cylinder-head covers.

Within the cylinders, pistons are equipped with large-diameter floating pins with bronze bushings for high-load capability. Forged powder-metal connecting rods are secured with aircraft-quality fasteners for increased fatigue strength.

Engine lubrication is managed by the large oil pump and a swinging oil pickup adapted from Viper competition engines, to ensure proper oil pressure in high-rpm and hard cornering conditions.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR sports the latest evolution of the Tremec T56 six-speed manual transmission known as the TR6060. Power is transmitted to the rear wheels via a GKN ViscoLok speed-sensing limited-slip differential.

Manufacturing
The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR will be hand built at the Conner Avenue Assembly Plant in Detroit.

The 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR will arrive in showrooms in the second quarter of 2008 at a Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of less than $100,000. Complete pricing information will be released at a later date.

Street and Racing Technology
SRT creates some of Chrysler LLC’s boldest, most distinctive products by single-mindedly following its core vision: Deliver benchmark performance at the lowest price, and deliver it with absolute integrity and credibility.

Every SRT vehicle showcases five key aspects: Exterior styling that resonates with the brand image; race-inspired interiors; world-class ride and handling characteristics across a dynamic range; benchmark braking and standout powertrain.










And in this corner from Bowling Green, Kentucky priced at a estimated $100,000+. That puts the price of the actual the ZR1 at more than $50K for the upgrade.

From GM...
2009 Corvette ZR1 Powered By The Most Powerful Production Engine Ever From GM: The Supercharged LS9 Small-Block V-8

When it arrives next summer, the 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 will be the most powerful and fastest production car ever produced by General Motors, with performance enabled by a new, supercharged 6.2L LS9 small-block V-8 engine.

Incorporating the engineering experience already found in the Corvette Z06’s LS7 engine and the new-for-2008 6.2L LS3 of the Corvette, GM Powertain is targeting 100 horsepower per liter for the LS9, or 620 horsepower (462 kW), and approximately 595 lb.-ft. of torque (807 Nm); final SAE-certified power levels will be available in early March 2008.

It is, indeed, the ultimate small-block engine for the ultimate Corvette.

“When you experience the LS9 in the Corvette ZR1, the terms performance and refinement take on a new meaning,” said Tom Stephens, group vice president for GM Powertrain and Quality. “The LS9 demonstrates an outstanding performance range, with smooth driveability at low speeds, and surprisingly fierce performance when the customer wants more power.”

The enabler of the LS9’s performance is a new, large positive-displacement Roots-type supercharger – with a unique four-lobe design – developed for the engine by Eaton. It is teamed with an integrated charge cooling system that reduces inlet air temperature for maximum performance. The LS9 represents the first of several new, supercharged small-block engines that will be introduced in GM vehicles in the near future, each using superchargers of similar design.

“The small-block V-8 once again demonstrates it boundless horsepower potential, versatile design and an architecture with proven quality, durability and reliability,” said Stephens. “We haven’t yet realized the small-block’s performance potential.”

Performance range

More than just its tremendous peak horsepower and torque numbers, the supercharged LS9 makes big power at lower rpm and carries it in a wide arc to 6,600 rpm. GM Powertrain testing shows the engine makes approximately 300 horsepower (224 kW) at 3,000 rpm and nearly 320 lb.-ft. of torque (434 Nm) at only 1,000 rpm. Torque tops 585 lb.-ft. (793 Nm) at about the 4,000-rpm mark, while horsepower peaks at 6,500 rpm. The engine produces 90 percent of peak torque from 2,600 rpm to 6,000 rpm.

Heavy-duty and lightweight reciprocating components enable the engine’s confident high-rpm performance, while the large-displacement Eaton supercharger pushes enough air to help the engine maintain power through the upper levels of the rpm band.

“The sixth-generation design of the supercharger expands the ‘sweet zone’ of the compressor’s effectiveness, broadening it to help make power lower in the rpm band,” said Ron Meegan, assistant chief engineer. “To put it simply, the low-end torque is amazing.”

The LS9 is assembled by hand at GM’s Performance Build Center, a unique, small-volume engine production facility in Wixom, Mich., that also builds the Corvette Z06’s LS7 engine and other high-performance GM production engines.

Cylinder block and reciprocating assembly details

The LS9’s aluminum cylinder block features steel, six-bolt main bearing caps, with enlarged vent windows in the second and third bulkheads for enhanced bay to bay breathing. Cast iron cylinder liners – measuring 4.06 inches (103.25 mm) in bore diameter – are inserted in the aluminum block and they are finish-bored and honed with a deck plate installed. The deck plate simulates the pressure and minute dimensional variances applied to the block when the cylinder heads are installed, ensuring a higher degree of accuracy that promotes maximum cylinder head sealing, piston ring fit and overall engine performance.

Nestled inside the cylinder block is a forged steel crankshaft that delivers the LS9’s 3.62-inch (92 mm) stroke. It features a smaller-diameter ignition-triggering reluctor wheel and a nine-bolt flange – the outer face of the crankshaft on which the flywheel is mounted – that provides more clamping strength. Other non-supercharged 6.2L engines, such as the base Corvette’s LS3, have a six-bolt flange. A torsional damper mounted to the front of the crankshaft features a keyway and friction washer, which also is designed to support the engine’s high loads.

Attached to the crankshaft is a set of titanium connecting rods and forged aluminum pistons, which, when combined with the cylinder heads, delivers a 9.1:1 compression ratio. This combination is extremely durable and lightweight, enabling the LS9’s high-rpm capability.

Cylinder head details

The basic cylinder head design of the LS9 is similar to the L92-type head found on the LS3 V-8, but it is cast with a premium A356T6 alloy that is better at handling the heat generated by the supercharged engine – particularly in the bridge area of the cylinder head, between the intake and exhaust valves.

In addition to the special aluminum alloy, each head is created with a rotocast method. Also known as spin casting, the process involves pouring the molten alloy into a rotating mold. This makes for more even distribution of the material and virtually eliminates porosity – air bubbles or pockets trapped in the casting – for a stronger finished product.

Although the heads are based on the L92 design, they feature swirl-inducing wings that are cast into the intake ports. This improves the mixture motion of the pressurized air/fuel charge. The charge enters the combustion chambers via titanium intake valves that measure 2.16 inches (55 mm) in diameter. Spent gases exit the chambers through 1.59-inch (40.4 mm) hollow stem sodium-filled exhaust valves. The titanium intake and sodium-filled exhaust valves are used for their lightweight and high-rpm capability.

To ensure sealing of the pressurized engine, unique, four-layer steel head gaskets are used with the LS9’s heads.

Camshaft and valvetrain

The broad power band enabled by the LS9’s large-displacement supercharger allows it to make strong low-end torque and great high-rpm horsepower, which allowed engineers to specify a camshaft with a relatively low lift of 0.555-inch (14.1 mm) for both the intake and exhaust valves. This low-overlap cam has lower lift and slower valve-closing speeds than the Z06’s 505-horsepower (377 kW) LS7, helping the LS9 – with its approximately 620 horsepower – deliver exemplary idle and low-speed driving qualities.

The camshaft actuates a valvetrain that includes many components, including the lifters, rocker arms and valve springs, of the LS3 engine. However, LS7 retainers are used to support the engine’s high-rpm performance.

Supercharger and charge cooler details

The LS9’s R2300 supercharger is a sixth-generation design from Eaton, with a case that is specific to the Corvette application. The supercharger features a new four-lobe rotor design that promotes quieter and more efficient performance, while its large, 2.3-liter displacement ensures adequate air volume at high rpm to support the engine’s high-horsepower aspiration. Maximum boost pressure is 10.5 psi (0.72 bar).

The supercharger is an engine-driven air pump that contains a pair of long rotors that are twisted somewhat like pretzel sticks. As they spin around each other, incoming air is squeezed between the rotors and pushed under pressure into the engine – forcing more air into the engine than it could draw under “natural” aspiration. The rotors are driven by a pulley and belt that are connected to the engine’s accessory drive system.

Because the pressurized air is hotter than naturally aspirated air, the LS9 employs a liquid-to-air charge cooling system to reduce inlet air temperature after it exits the supercharger – reducing the inlet air temperature by up to 60 degrees C (140 F). Cooler air is denser and allows the engine to make the most of its high-pressure air charge. The charge cooling system includes a dedicated coolant circuit with a remote-mounted pump and reservoir.

The design of the supercharger case and its integrated charge cooling system was driven by the space and dimensions afforded under the Corvette’s hood. To that end, the charge cooler was designed as a “dual brick” system, with a pair of low-profile heat exchangers mounted longitudinally on either side of the supercharger. Coupled with the supercharger itself, this integrated design mounts to the engine in place of a conventional intake manifold and is only slightly taller than a non-supercharged 6.2L engine. The air inlet and rotor drive pulley are positioned at the front of the supercharger.

Additional engine details

Oiling system: The LS9 uses a dry-sump oiling system that is similar in design to the LS7’s system, but features a higher-capacity pump to ensure adequate oil pressure at the higher cornering loads the ZR1 is capable of achieving. An oil-pan mounted oil cooler is integrated, too, along with piston-cooling oil squirters located in the cylinder block. The expanded performance envelope of the Corvette ZR1 required changes to the dry sump system also used in the Z06. System capacity is increased and scavenge performance improved to meet the demands of Chevrolet's highest-performance sportscar.

Water pump: To compensate for the heavier load generated by the supercharger drive system, an LS9-specific water pump with increased bearing capacity is used.

Accessory drive system: In order to package the accessory drive system in the Corvette’s engine compartment, the supercharger drive was integrated into the main drive system. This required a wider 11-rib accessory drive system to be used with the LS9 in order to support the load delivered by the supercharger.

Fuel system: The LS9 uses high-capacity 48-lb./hr. fuel injectors with center-feed fuel lines. The center feed system ensures even fuel flow between the cylinders with less noise. In order to ensure fuel system performance during low speed operation as well as under the extreme performance requirements of wide open throttle (WOT), a dual pressure fuel system was developed. This system operates at 250 kPa at idle and low speed, and ratchets up to 600 kPa at higher-speed and WOT conditions.

Throttle body: An 87-mm, single-bore throttle body is used to draw air into the engine. It is electronically controlled.

Rocker covers / ignition coils: Unique rocker covers with new, direct-mount ignition coils are used. Other Gen IV engines, such as the LS3, feature coil packs mounted to a bracket. The LS9’s direct-mounted coils offer a cleaner appearance and a shorter lead between the coil and spark plug.

Beauty cover: A special engine cover is attached to the top of the LS9. It surrounds the intercooler, which is visible through a hood window, accenting the supercharger while simultaneously reducing noise. The cover has “LS9 SUPERCHARGED” script on the left and right sides, along with a debossed Corvette crossed flags emblem on the front.

New six-speed manual transmission

The Corvette ZR1’s LS9 engine is backed by a Tremec TR6060 six-speed manual transmission, with a twin-disc clutch system. It is based on the proven T56 six-speed, but upgraded to handle the LS9’s torque output and delivers improved shift quality

The twin-disc clutch system provides exceptional clamping power, while maintaining an easy clutch effort. The system employs a pair of 260-mm discs, which spreads out the engine’s torque load over a wider area, enabling tremendous clamping power to channel the LS9’s torque. It also dissipates heat better and extends the clutch life (in normal driving).

Thanks to comparatively small plates, the twin-disc system enables similar disc inertia to the Corvette Z06, which has a 290-mm single-disc system, contributing to low shift effort and providing exceptionally smooth engagement and light pedal effort. In fact, the more powerful ZR1 has a pedal effort similar to the Z06.

ZR1-specific gearing in the transmission provides a steep first-gear ratio that helps launch the car. The car’s top speed is achieved in sixth gear – a change from the fifth-gear top-speed run-outs in the manual-transmission Corvette and Corvette Z06. The gears also are designed to balance performance with refinement. The angles of the gear teeth are optimized to provide both strength and quietness.








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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:10 PM
The Viper looks mean, like bite-your-ear-off-Mike-Tyson-style mean. And I bet it drives like it looks.


The Vette is actually sexy, smooth, subtle (if you don't count the see-through hood). And it probably also drives like such.






Bottom line, Vette wins. It always seems to one-up the Viper, no matter how ridiculous the battle. Though I wouldn't mine having either one








Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:10 PM
Yea i am gonna have to say Corvette ALL the way!!!1
I mean the Viper is a sexy car, but come on Vette has done more with less over these years, and now that they DO have more you can only imagine what thats like



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:11 PM
im a fanboy....vette all the way



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:05 PM
i may be one sided on this although i did get to test drive a 2007 Viper (i know it wasn't the one as described above) but i would honestly have to say the new Corvette will walk all over the viper... it will be lighter and have more power then the viper.. Plus they softened up the rear suspension of the new vetted.. which was a problem with the C6 Z06 on traction.. it was so stiff to the point that it wont let the rear end squat down as much planting the big boots harder to the ground... resulting in a better launch from a stand still (same shocks as ferrari's use forget the name though) .. and added ceramic breaks with 15.5" !!! breaks up front and only a measly 15" breaks in the back

But i will admit as much as i still think the corvettes are damn sexy! .. for this comparison i think the Viper wins in the looks catagory





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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:18 PM
guess im the only for the viper , reasons why

the vette is designed for the street as well as play

the viper is designed for race , but left streetable


if GM decides to make a stripped version of the ZR1 with out the fancy stuff for the street , then my vte would be for the ZR1 , the viper just has to much stuff you can leave off with the ACR this year






Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:50 PM
Well...if it HAD to be between either of the two cars pictured. I'd say the corvette....because that Viper is nasty looking.
Too many racing stripes and weird sh*t going on on, it's too busy. The Vette looks smooth and menacing.



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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 5:59 PM
i dont like that little red stripe on the viper. car looks crazy though.


but i am a chevy guy , so the zr1 it is.







Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:14 PM
That viper looks tight....

The vette...eh...it kinda looks riced out to me. The hood...the wheels.... Idno, I'd bet the vette is faster but the viper will feel faster... If you get what i mean... I'll never get to drive either tho, but whatever, I like the looks of a viper over a vette... But it's not like a don't like the vette, change them rims and get a new hood and then we'll talk.... Or I can at least pretend to talk about getting one, I'm 19 and live at home, who am I kidding .


wysiwyg wrote:i would say they bang, they don't really pound so much. but if
you want to bump, then they will bump and hit real hard and a lot good.

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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:24 PM
Hate the hood on the Vette....otherwise i love it. Viper is just mean looking.....ditch the rear wing though.

I would take that Viper over the Vette. I would like to see them run against each other.



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:28 PM
What exactly is the fight? I say straightline, the vet wins, but like 97cavie24ls said

[quote=97cavie24ls(™)]guess im the only for the viper , reasons why

the vette is designed for the street as well as play

the viper is designed for race , but left streetable



if GM decides to make a stripped version of the ZR1 with out the fancy stuff for the street , then my vte would be for the ZR1 , the viper just has to much stuff you can leave off with the ACR this year
If it's a track race, I'd give the edge to the Viper.


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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:38 PM
DroptopPaul wrote:im a fanboy....vette all the way


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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:48 PM
Whatever wrote:That viper looks tight....

The vette...eh...it kinda looks riced out to me. The hood...the wheels.... Idno, I'd bet the vette is faster but the viper will feel faster... If you get what i mean... I'll never get to drive either tho, but whatever, I like the looks of a viper over a vette... But it's not like a don't like the vette, change them rims and get a new hood and then we'll talk.... Or I can at least pretend to talk about getting one, I'm 19 and live at home, who am I kidding .


haha seriously....the vette is the one you think looks riced out...

Look at that @!#$ wing on the viper. Thats what ruins it for me. I mean id rather have the vette anyways, but that viper would look awesome without the wing and solid paint



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:57 PM
that window on the hood of the vette is the gayest thing I have ever seen. That completely ruins the car for me...


Viper FTW



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:43 PM
vette all the way, best bang for the buck. not only do you get straight line power but you also get the handling, not to mention WAY better looks.



maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow....... but some day
Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:44 PM
I see ALOT more c6 and c7 Corvettes on the road than Vipers over here so, I'm going to have to choose the Viper.

dan



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:44 PM
Yeah............................do I really need to give my vote??

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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:33 PM
Definately the Corvette. The Viper is still overweight compared to the 'Vette and underpowered if the predictions for the ZR1 are correct (620+hp). I actually like the hood on the Corvette but the Viper looks like a pure track car and on the street would just look riced out due to the wing.


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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:45 PM
the thing everyone is forgetting is the wing on the viper is uh... necessary.

downforce at 100+mph is a nice thing to have on a car that can actually best that speed in less than an 1/8 mile

same with the splitters on the front bumper.. wow FUNCTIONAL stuff!

riceboys destroyed all that stuff and while I feel the wing on the ACR is tacky, I am willing to bet that it is 100% necessary when traversing at high speed, and I bet the viper will feel more stable and more responsive at speed then the vette would.


vette has the power, but the viper FTW






Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 5:06 AM
I didn't forget that, i just don't like the wing...

And the corvette doesn't have one...





Sorry but when it comes down to it, i want a driver that can hit the track on race day, not a racer i can take on the streets occasionally..



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 6:53 AM
Rosario wrote:Sorry but when it comes down to it, i want a driver that can hit the track on race day, not a racer i can take on the streets occasionally..
Well said. I would be scared parking that Viper at the mall.

I'm probably the only one that actually likes the paint on the Viper?




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Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 7:53 AM
i would want the vette to win...but i think the ACR will walk it

i mean the Viper is basically a street legal race car....the vette is just a monster of a street car....its a tough call but i would give it to the viper on this on



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 8:45 AM
Brian Whalen wrote:What exactly is the fight? I say straightline, the vet wins, but like 97cavie24ls said

[quote=97cavie24ls(™)]guess im the only for the viper , reasons why

the vette is designed for the street as well as play

the viper is designed for race , but left streetable



if GM decides to make a stripped version of the ZR1 with out the fancy stuff for the street , then my vte would be for the ZR1 , the viper just has to much stuff you can leave off with the ACR this year

If it's a track race, I'd give the edge to the Viper.

Yeah, I guess GM doesn't really design their cars for the track



The vette will win.





Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 8:52 AM
Viper FTW..and easy.

I don't really like the stripe on the Viper but I like the way they striped the steering wheel also. lol

I'd take the Dodge any day even though I must say the Vette is one B.A.M.F !



Re: Place your bets: Viper SRT10 ACR vs. Corvette ZR1
Friday, December 28, 2007 8:59 AM
How Can you say that. I mean im sure you like the Viper and all But easy win...no @!#$ way...it will be close...



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