850HP 9-3
I like it because it is using a genuine Opel/Saab Ecopower engine. The same basic platform that will be on the Saturn Astra.
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crazy europeans with their huge turbos and small 4 cylinder engines.
That vid is a couple years old. Saw it when I was looking at SS. Cool though.
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I wonder what the power curve looked like and how much PSI he is running.
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Wow, i've never seen that video. Pretty cool.
I can guess why the entire interior is gutted out and has only a couple aftermarket gauges....
Originally that car (sports sedan) came with a 2.0L ecotec engine. They swapped that out for a ecopower engine. They use completely different engine management systems and the engine management is run through several components in the interior of the car.
And yes, Malibu chassis + saabs structural reinforcements = Sports sedan chassis. Which is the same platform as the saturns.
Suck vid, but sweet note to the pipe! Can you imagine it at full-song in a tunnel? And those rev numbers... they're at a place pushrod V-8 guys fear to go in street-legal rides. This is not a suprise to me, as I've heard of a So-Cal Speed Shop Highboy 'liner with one pushin' 900hp with a turbo on The Flats. I've only one question: What fuel we're they runnin' through it? I know that the factory Ecopower w/ turbo can run on E-85, and produce better numbers out the door on it than with gasoline with less total enrichment. Man, I'd like to see what that engine can do in a RWD chassis with an automatic trans... It would kill at the strip. Or better yet, a Lenco or Liberty trans! Whoa! Hold up a minute... I just thought of a real killer. That engine + the Hot Rod Magazine/ GM Performance Parts Solstice = One REAL giant slayer. Watch out, displacement fans... 4 now equals 8+!
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Nickelin Dimer wrote:Watch out, displacement fans... 4 now equals 8+!
Nope, F.I. 4 cyl. = N.A. 8cyl.
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Uh, Big... V-8s come and can be built fuel injected. Of course, I guess (And hope...) you were thinking of engines built over 20 years ago when carburation was a common method of fuel delivery on most engines (Think: Any one I might see on average.) out of the factory because it was so cheap to apply. Alot of old schoolers that use the Texas approach to making power (Bigger is better.) tend to also prefer the carb because it was easy to tune (At least in Holley form.) and build a system for compared to a EFI system in their eyes. And it cost alot less. The same goes against any mech-inject system that ever came along. But keep in mind these kind of people at one time thought the factory electronic ignitions weren't gonna amount to the same value of capabilities and flexability that breaker-points ignition had come to hold with them... Now look how many run electronic ignitions: Almost ALL of them.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
That's nice and all, but the turbo doesn't actually do anything until high RPM's, seems kind of useless. I would rather have a turbo that gives me power throughout the power band, seems his turbo gives him power right before he has to shift. Looks to be more of a dyno queen to me.
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^^^^ I agree.. thats all it is.. Even in the Vid. an 850hp car should be INSANE. and those small ass tires would be smoke.. ... i am not impressed.. and for the record. Yes turbo 4 banger can be quick, but how relaible are they on a day to day basis.. you need crazy boost, fuel, tunning, and what not to reach those leers. as were a V8 can throw on some bolt on and go.. Yes high Hp is great but in a REAL race Torque matters... and Yes before my Vette i had a turbo Cavalier. and i know all the pains of boosting small engines..
The car looked to be a total slouch before the turbo spooled up. Wouldn't even think of breaking those tires loose, a car with a real power band on the other hand, those tires would have been shredded as soon as he put his foot down.
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Nickelin Dimer wrote:Uh, Big... V-8s come and can be built fuel injected. Of course, I guess (And hope...) you were thinking of engines built over 20 years ago when carburation was a common method of fuel delivery on most engines (Think: Any one I might see on average.) out of the factory because it was so cheap to apply. Alot of old schoolers that use the Texas approach to making power (Bigger is better.) tend to also prefer the carb because it was easy to tune (At least in Holley form.) and build a system for compared to a EFI system in their eyes. And it cost alot less. The same goes against any mech-inject system that ever came along. But keep in mind these kind of people at one time thought the factory electronic ignitions weren't gonna amount to the same value of capabilities and flexability that breaker-points ignition had come to hold with them... Now look how many run electronic ignitions: Almost ALL of them.
In his analogy, F.I. = Forced Induction instead of Fuel injected
A lot of those points were valid but for the record SAAB engines always make way more torque than HP. I'm sure it has other issues that you were talking about but torque probably isn't one of them. Every tuned SAAB engine I've seen or read about (quite a few) make about 30 lb-ft more torque than horsepower. But I agree, having a tuned saab peaking at about 22psi, boosting a little engine is a pain in the ass, every little issue that would normally not be a big deal becomes a serious pain in the neck when you start running high boost.
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