Well, the lease for the Ion is slowly coming to an end.
I was thinking about getting a used Jeep.. But I know nothing about them. Since a few people on here know lots about them, I figured I ask some general questions. What are some problems to look for when shopping around? I'll be looking at 2002-2004 models probably. What's the difference between YJ and TJ? Are they just trim levels? What's the mpg like on a jeep? I know it's probably not that great.. Just looking for some basic info.
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All those 2 letter codes is what jeep has always used to identify body styles. Wranglers where known a CJ's way before they where called Wranglers. I know CJ is a wrangler, I think TJ is a Cherokee. Pretty much all new Cherokees have V8's so if you wan't gas milage, you might wan't to stay away from them. I know the older 4 liter streight sixes they used to put in jeeps, have recieved a lot of praise and are suppoed to be really reliable, plus theres an aftermarket for them. There are a lot of jeep owners that are just fanatic about the things, you can probably find a site like this thats just for jeeps, and they should be able to tell you anything you need to know and more.
lone_wolf wrote:Well, the lease for the Ion is slowly coming to an end. I was thinking about getting a used Jeep.. But I know nothing about them. Since a few people on here know lots about them, I figured I ask some general questions. What are some problems to look for when shopping around? I'll be looking at 2002-2004 models probably. What's the difference between YJ and TJ? Are they just trim levels? What's the mpg like on a jeep? I know it's probably not that great.. Just looking for some basic info.
The two letters like Weebel said are to distinguish body styles of the Jeeps. Here is a quick little breakdown.
CJ - The classic short wheels base, made from a long time ago until 1986.
YJ - Short wheel base Wranglers made from 1987-1995. Best way to tell is to look for square headlights
TJ - Short wheel base Wrangler made from 1997-2006. Round headlights.
LJ - Wrangler but have a longer wheel base from 2003-2006 I believe.
JK - 2006-present Wranglers.
XJ - Cherokees made from 1984-2001
MJ - Commanches made from 1986-1992 (similiar to Cherokees but in truck form)
ZJ - 1993-1998 Grand Cherokee
WJ - 1999-2004 Grand Cherokee
WK - 2005 - present Grand Cherokee
XK - 2005 - present Commander
KJ - Jeep Liberty
MK - Jeep Patriot
I personally own a 2004 Wrangler (TJ). There are different trim levels depending on which kind of Jeep you are looking into. Some can range from appearance packages all the way to different gear ratios, axle options, lockers, transfer case, etc.
Gas mileage sucks on the Jeep. Bone stock they aren't too bad. I have a 19 gallon tank and when I was stock would be able to atleast get over 300 miles per tank.
If you have ideas on off-roading, I would really suggest jumping on a used 2003-2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. The prices on them used have dropped into a very affordable range even with low mileage. They come with a 4:1 range transfer case, 4.10 gears, front and rear air lockers and front and rear Dana 44 axles. They also come factory with some nice Goodyear MT/R's.
Have a good one,
Justin
i love jeeps, i really miss my TJ.
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Justin Cox wrote:
The two letters like Weebel said are to distinguish body styles of the Jeeps. Here is a quick little breakdown.
CJ - The classic short wheels base, made from a long time ago until 1986.
YJ - Short wheel base Wranglers made from 1987-1995. Best way to tell is to look for square headlights
TJ - Short wheel base Wrangler made from 1997-2006. Round headlights.
LJ - Wrangler but have a longer wheel base from 2003-2006 I believe.
JK - 2006-present Wranglers.
XJ - Cherokees made from 1984-2001
MJ - Commanches made from 1986-1992 (similiar to Cherokees but in truck form)
ZJ - 1993-1998 Grand Cherokee
WJ - 1999-2004 Grand Cherokee
WK - 2005 - present Grand Cherokee
XK - 2005 - present Commander
KJ - Jeep Liberty
MK - Jeep Patriot
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Justin Cox wrote:
If you have ideas on off-roading, I would really suggest jumping on a used 2003-2006 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. The prices on them used have dropped into a very affordable range even with low mileage. They come with a 4:1 range transfer case, 4.10 gears, front and rear air lockers and front and rear Dana 44 axles. They also come factory with some nice Goodyear MT/R's.
that's definitely a good choice.
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If your worried about MPG and fuel economy...then i would avoid a Jeep. And I'm not bashing I've ownd a TJ and a Suzuki Jeeps and i've learned one thing...they all suck gas. If that's not really a concern then no worries becuase that is really the ONLY substantial con to owning one.
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As other stated, dont get one for the gas mileage.... I have a 98 wrangler lifted and locked up front! It is amazing how well it preforms off road! I also have an 82 CJ-8 (long wheelbase CJ)...
Personally if you can afford gas, get a jeep and you wont regret it!
while shopping around look for dana 44 rear end and 3.73 gears. If you find with a hard top it is an easy way to make quick cash by selling it... also I would looked for a sport, sahara, or rubi that has the 4.0L... I would steer away from a lifted and abused rig. Looking under neither at the skids and control arms to see the condition of everything...
If you want a wrangler or a standard cherokee, then go for it, but any of the grand cherokees or newer models like liberty, commander, compass, etc... RUN AWAY. QUICKLY. Used to work on these occasionally during my stint at Dodge and they defeated the entire purpose of owning a jeep. What makes a jeep a jeep is that its rugged and reliable, and pretty much any of the newer models were neither. Wrangler however really hasn't seen a significant change through the years so those are still a safe bet. Oh, and if you go for an older one stay clear of the 4 bangers. I myself never had to deal with any problems but the one guy who used to work with me at dodge had worked for years and years at a jeep dealership and didn't have a kind word to say in reference to the 4 cylinder. Oh, and if you can find one of the old cherokees with an allison trans in it, thats a tank right there. We had people come in with cracked trans pans with no fluid at all in them, who had basically driven until the trans stopped working, put a new pan on, filled the fluid, and the trans would still work (hey, I didn't believe it either).
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