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V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:19 AM
Possible look for the ULS?



Cadillac division, is developing the hardware for an opulent V12-engined flagship that draws its design inspiration from the 2003 Cadillac Sixteen concept car.

The plush new sedan will rival for the Mercedes-Benz S-Class and the Lexus LS 460, would provide buyers with a homegrown alternative to some of the world’s most highly distinguished luxury-car offerings—at a price that is likely to undercut the competition dramatically.

A key component in GM product boss Bob Lutz’s push to provide Cadillac with a more international flavor and to drive sales in markets outside the United States, the distinctively styled rear-wheel-drive model would be positioned at the top of the range, with a list of high-end features never before offered on a Cadillac, including the very latest in crash avoidance and safety technology.

Lutz confirmed that development work is well under way in Australia on the new V12 that would be the centerpiece of the new Cadillac.

The V12 essentially mates two of the company’s 60-degree, 3.6-liter V6 engines on a common crankshaft (think of the 2008 CTS V6). The V12 will offer features such as direct injection, cylinder deactivation and a state-of-the-art automatic gearbox to ensure competitive levels of power and economy. They say a safe starting point is merely to double specifications from the direct-injection 3.6-liter V6, which would give the engine a 7.2-liter displacement, about 600 hp and some 540 lb-ft of torque.

Experimental engines created by Holden already have undergone testing in prototype mules at the company’s Lang Lang test center outside Melbourne. The prototypes run on GM’s rear-wheel-drive Zeta architecture, as found beneath the Holden Commodore, Australia’s version of the upcoming Pontiac G8. The chassis features a lengthened engine module to accommodate the V12 engine and widened front and rear tracks.
At this stage, it is unknown whether GM plans to base the upmarket Cadillac on the same platform, but given the need to spread the cost of rear-wheel-drive development over as many models as possible, such a move cannot be ruled out.

Cadillac also offered a V12 in the 1930s, but that giant gave way to a V8 powerplant during and after World War II. Cadillac resurrected the configuration in its 2002 Cadillac Cien concept, which featured an experimental 7.5-liter, 750-hp, 450-lb-ft Northstar V12.

What do you all think?





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Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:27 AM
Mmmmmm...tasty

And the fact that they have target cars they are going against and are trying to beat them in price and in technology hopefully shows that US automakers are finally getting serious about "imported" competition...good for them






Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:37 AM
Just so long as GM finds a way to keep it from rattling after 2 years, it sounds badass.


1989 Z24 Convertible - Dust Covered
2006 tC - Dust Covered, but driven more
Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:56 AM
Just to think this was a concept that invaded the Detroit Auto Show about 4 years ago and it still has a chance of becoming reality. The Cadillac 16 screams Rap stars, C.E.O's of major companies and lets not forget about pro-athletes I think it would be a good move on Cadillac's part, since most of the higher end luxury is taken up by Lexus, Mercedes, Maybach, Rolls Royce, Bently and BMW. I just hope that they wouldn't be one step behind Lexus when it comes to technology inside the car, not just the engine.

dan



Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:03 AM
I liked the cadillac that they drove in the movie The Island thing had about 800 hp looked really tight thats my kind of Caddy
Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:30 AM
id rather see the V16

but either way it should be pretty sweet







Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:45 AM
looks good so far.



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Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:52 AM
Yuck that is fugly

they need to make that concept car that was in "The Island" now that would be a true american exotic car and international sensation



1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85





Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:02 PM
better looking than a cobalt







Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:38 PM
ZlineDavid wrote:Just so long as GM finds a way to keep it from rattling after 2 years, it sounds badass.


Since when has Cadillac had that problem?



Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:54 PM
Look up some of the CTS/CTS-V quality issues; noises, rattles, squeaks, etc.


1989 Z24 Convertible - Dust Covered
2006 tC - Dust Covered, but driven more

Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:04 PM
[quote=97trd(???™)]better looking than a cobalt

wtf sence does that make? a cobalt is an economy car...not a luxury brands newest flagship car


your a @!#$ moron



Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:32 PM
ZlineDavid wrote:Just so long as GM finds a way to keep it from rattling after 2 years, it sounds badass.



That right there really is GM's bigest problem.







Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:33 PM
BIGGEST!!!



Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:51 PM
Craig Lewis wrote:
ZlineDavid wrote:Just so long as GM finds a way to keep it from rattling after 2 years, it sounds badass.



That right there really is GM's bigest problem.


Really, I don't have the problem.



05 M6 YJ GTO 1 of 447 12.767@109.93
Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:15 PM
halfJ99 wrote:[quote=97trd(???™)]better looking than a cobalt


wtf sence does that make? a cobalt is an economy car...not a luxury brands newest flagship car


your a @!#$ moron

go curl up with your cobalt and STFU


douche job







Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 3:20 PM
seeing that makes me want to play some PGR3 now that I think about it.



05 M6 YJ GTO 1 of 447 12.767@109.93
Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:27 PM
Sappy96 wrote:
Craig Lewis wrote:
ZlineDavid wrote:Just so long as GM finds a way to keep it from rattling after 2 years, it sounds badass.



That right there really is GM's bigest problem.


Really, I don't have the problem.


Nor here, my 2002 Sunfire GT is rattle free and very tight, I could not say that for the 1996 Sunfire SE and the Z06 had creaked, because of cheap plastics used that plagues so many GMs.



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Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:41 PM
[quote=97trd(???™)]
halfJ99 wrote:[quote=97trd(???™)]better looking than a cobalt


wtf sence does that make? a cobalt is an economy car...not a luxury brands newest flagship car


your a @!#$ moron

go curl up with your cobalt and STFU


douche job

well first tell me how your comment makes sence?

ouch, douche job...freshman or sophmore in high school?



Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:44 PM
all right !! a new motor to swap into the fire



maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow....... but some day
Re: V-12 Cadillac is confirmed
Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:33 PM
There is not a squeak or rattle in my Z24, as long as it is between -10 and -15 Celsius. At about -20 it starts to rattle ALOT. And anything above freezing it squeeks hardcore.

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