ok i dont know too much about EVOs. there is an EVO 8 and 9. They both look the same. what are the differences? I guess the evo 9 has the MR edition that comes with a 6spd and it has MIVEC (sp?). What advantages does the MR have over the regular evo?
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MR has better suspension, 6-speed manual, lighter weight rims and these "fins" on the rear roof that create an air effect that is supposed to reduce the downforce hitting the spoiler.
Exodus 259 wrote:MR has better suspension, 6-speed manual, lighter weight rims and these "fins" on the rear roof that create an air effect that is supposed to reduce the downforce hitting the spoiler.
why would you want to
reduce downforce???? IIRC the "fins" add 10lbs of downforce
the differences...
increased power
MIVEC
about the Evo IX.. updates and such...
It comes minius trim , A/C, and any interior luxuaries.
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its alll about the mivec, nothing eles. to ponder on the meger suspeions differeces, is to delve in an area barley touched.
how ever there was one giant change to the nine and that was the motor. for as long as I can rember dsm ment 4g6. the weight of mistus tuning world rested, (and in my own personal opoin) rests on the back of the 4g6. Its an Iron monster that can hold massive amounts of power, easy to mess with, and broke like a sonfabitch. but regardless it was what dsm ment.
This carried over to the evo for a a while, proving that the block as old as it was, still steped up to the plate everytime. the beauty was that it was still the old school motor that everyone loved, but in a car that defined the word thecnology. people couldnt ask for more.
now with the mivec things get changed around a bit. I know little about this new motor, but what I do know is, that it was supposed to have fliped things upsidedown for most mistu tuners. apparently the motor was supposed to have been much more technology advanced then most and hard to tune. making the new evo less like the tuner cars dsm lovers know and loved, and more like a hightech super car, that you leave stock.
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guy at work just got one last night its awesome inside out an under the hood
but performance wise, is it basically the same vehicle? I was also looking at the WRX STI and the 350z. Its a choice between those 3 what i will buy.
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CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:but performance wise, is it basically the same vehicle? I was also looking at the WRX STI and the 350z. Its a choice between those 3 what i will buy.
you could not be more wrong!!!
they are so different. im not sure if mey made mr versions of the evo9, they may have i just have not seen one, nor have i bothered to even look. but the evo9 has the SAME turbo as the evo8 MR edition. mr's have 6sp. trannys. not all evo9's do however. the one in my driveway doesnt haha. evo9's have vvt, (which is basically VTAK!!!!! for the newbs). and other difference performance wise. the fact that is has vvt alone is so much different than the evo8. and i personally havnt noticed the evo9 being harder to tune than the evo8. my ex had an 8 and my roomate has an evo9 both cars were on aem ems and running fairly similar mods and really dont see much of a difference in tuning abilitys on the cars.
VVT is not Vtec. Two different thing, VVT is just variable timing. Vtec is like having two differenct cams.
How much you looking to spend?
You should shop around more.
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im lookin to spend around 25k for a car. i like the STI but they got this blue crap all over the car and there is a touch of pink in it. the 350z is cool. i like the look and the sound but its a two seater.
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not feeling the pink and blue? sorry man, you might not have the heart and love to appreciate a subaru lol. just last fall we got done putting in a subframe brace, front and rear strut tower braces, rear sway bar, and some drop springs in my buddies TS... all pink... no hate...
I would say Subaru out of your choices, but I am heavily biased
On the other hand....you have other fingers.
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JLAudioCavalier(1bad02cav) wrote:not feeling the pink and blue? sorry man, you might not have the heart and love to appreciate a subaru lol. just last fall we got done putting in a subframe brace, front and rear strut tower braces, rear sway bar, and some drop springs in my buddies TS... all pink... no hate...
I would say Subaru out of your choices, but I am heavily biased
As am i , i love my WRX . Best car ive ever driver, ide die for an STI.
I am biased as well but towards the GTO. Which you can get some nice ones for cheap. There was a 04 Blck w/ red interior w/ 5k miles for 19,995 for sale around here.
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Sappy96 wrote:VVT is not Vtec. Two different thing, VVT is just variable timing. Vtec is like having two differenct cams.
How much you looking to spend?
You should shop around more.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm
really????????????????
vtec is variable valve timing. always has been, always will be.
two different cams??? do you mean dohc??? one intake cam, and one exhaust cam??? that is called DOHC, always has been and always will be.
Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts
Direct from the stie.
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Sappy96 wrote:Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts
Direct from the stie.
from the direct site "vtec is variable valve timing." look half way down the page. there is also a thing in the honda world called single overhead cam vtec engines as well. im not gonna read that whole page, just pulled up the first "what does vtec mean" page i googled to show you.
explain to me your reasoning then. if vtec means you have multiple cams, how is there single cam vtec engines???
You are misuderstandind what I am saying Kyle.
"VTEC (which stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control) is an electronic and mechanical system in some Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts. As the engine moves into different rpm ranges, the engine's computer can activate alternate lobes on the camshaft and change the cam's timing. In this way, the engine gets the best features of low-speed and high-speed camshafts in the same engine."
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isnt that kinda the same thing is this??? the definition of vvt.
Pressure to meet environmental goals and fuel efficiency standards is forcing car manufacturers to turn to VVT as a solution. Most simple VVT systems (like Mazda's S-VT) advance or retard the timing of the intake or exhaust valves.
Others (like Honda's VTEC) switch between two sets of cam lobes at a certain engine RPM. Still others (like BMW's Valvetronic) can alter timing and lift continuously, which is called Continuous variable valve timing or CVVT
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ok yes i misunderstood what you were saying about mulitple cams. but vtec is still a vvt system. making your first statement incorrect.
Isnt vvt a trademarked name by someone? I kow vvt-i was toyotas thing.
Its still not a vvt in the truest sence. Rhe cam isnt advancing like normal vvt it switches lobes at xxxx rpm.
So its changing valve timing by changing cams basically. Which is still some decent technology.
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Sappy96 wrote:Isnt vvt a trademarked name by someone? I kow vvt-i was toyotas thing.
Its still not a vvt in the truest sence. Rhe cam isnt advancing like normal vvt it switches lobes at xxxx rpm.
So its changing valve timing by changing cams basically. Which is still some decent technology.
i dont think it is trademarked. it may be though. i havnt heard of an engine where they just called it vvt though.
O well.
Still the cars themselves are formidible even tho they are a bit pricey.
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Sappy96 wrote:O well.
Still the cars themselves are formidible even tho they are a bit pricey.
for sure! cost quite a bit. but if your in the market for a NEWER 4cyl. tuner car them and the sti's are the only choice in my book haha
