http://www.gm.com/company/gm_exp_liv...dex_flash.html (Click on the Volt Concept to vote)
Should GM build it and would you buy it if they did?
So far the results are overwhelmingly in favor!!!
Spread the website to friends and family and have them let GM know their thoughts.
Yes this is a direct copy and paste off of another site. But GM needs to build this !!!
Nathaniel O'Flaherty wrote:link no worky
if it did id say HELL EFFING YES
ya link doesn't work for me ether
But that concept is cool.
Where do I vote?
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-MD- LD9 wrote:Where do I vote?
click on nfamous's link then click on the volt, on the top left of the screen there is a big vote for Volt button.
just voted...i seriously think this is what GM need right now....they need to make it asap, demand would be huge
A smaller version of the Camaro? Jesus, how gay. It looks like ass, just like the new Camaro. I would vote against it in a heartbeat, why not create something new, instead of ripping off of the Camaro?
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And it's an electric car? Hell no. Demand would be high for good fuel economy cars, but you all know that GM will raise the price way the @!#$ up there.
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Copy and pasted from antother forum board. They gave no sources but I did ask for them.
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GM needs to build it as soon they can, which is whenever the battery technology becomes available. If GM is successful with making the Volt at a mass-market price, every other car on the road will become an antique.
On a related note, here's something interesting to think about: The U.S. Department of Energy did a study recently regarding the existing power grid’s ability to handle the demands of plug-in hybrid vehicles. And according to the DOE, the existing grid will handle 180 million plug-in vehicles.
There were some other thought-provoking assumptions in the report; for instance, the fact that if more electric power was being provided by utility companies as a result of electric vehicles being recharged, this additional power would be provided over existing infrastructure, resulting in a maximum realization of value for the utility vis-à-vis the fixed network, thereby driving down the overall cost of electricity nationwide. This effect, however, would be much more pronounced on the East Coast and the Midwest, which currently has idle capacity in current transmission infrastructure.
The report also noted that carbon dioxide emissions in cities would go down by about 5%, but sulfur dioxide emissions (the cause of acid rain) would go up in rural areas as a result of more coal being burned in those areas to produce the extra electricity.
Just as an FYI, if you think environmentalists are fanatics about plug-in hybrids, you should spend some time with a utility company executive. To them, it’s all about a different kind of "green" power – a switch to hybrid electric vehicles by a substantial number of drivers would mean a tremendous increase in revenues and profits (green, indeed!) for utility companies nationwide. To say that their self-interests are at work in their support of plug-in vehicles is a considerable understatement of fact.
Its an electric hybrid with 110V house-plug recharge capability... If it can run soley off the electric motor for 40 miles, then its basicly the perfect non-highway car. And, its good looking. Just like the camaro.
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Maybe Im just pissed, pissed that my freinds are spineless, What else would you
call abandoment some night, when you're in a fight, and they could make things right?
Spineless. I miss some of my old friends, the ones who you could count on,
bet a huge amount on, the fact that they'd always have your back... Its like a kick in
the sack, just knowing, you've got nothing to fall back on. @!#$ this, Im done.
For some reason from the rear it reminds me of an ugly shoe. I forsee big $$ if it ever does go to production, but if they are able to make it relatively cheap then good for them. I really don't think it will be much better on the environment than using one of the more efficient hybrid powered cars in production already.
People seem to forget one crucial thing with electricity. Sure you aren't creating as much waste through exhaust fumes as burning fossil fuels...but where do you think the abundance of electricity comes from? Alot of the US isn't gifted with hydro or environmentally friendly power plants. If it's easier on your conscience that someone else is burning the coal or creating waste and you aren't then cheers for you. I'll still be using the good ol' stuff, or maybe E85 when it finally catches on over here.
ling427ttvette wrote:And it's an electric car? Hell no. Demand would be high for good fuel economy cars, but you all know that GM will raise the price way the @!#$ up there.
Thats the reason why our future is so @!#$ right now. Sure I love the internal combustion engine, but its not going to be around forever, so get used to it. And yeah for now their needs to be higher fuel economy cars, but hybrid and electric cars are the future. And in my opinion, auto makers are still sitting around with their thumbs up their asses when it comes to what needs to be done.
wow electric!? awesome. id buy 3 of them and get rid of all my gasoline cars in a heartbeat.
@!#$ electric cars, they take away all of the fun that can be had with an internal combustion engine. They will never sound like a V-8 with a 3" exhaust, sure they would be handy, but I damn sure won't ever own one. I would rather drive a Geo Metro.
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You wouldnt own ONE? You'd rather pay like $8 a gallon driving your thirsty ass camaro around, then pay basicly nothing for a daily driver? You sir, have no sense.
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Maybe Im just pissed, pissed that my freinds are spineless, What else would you
call abandoment some night, when you're in a fight, and they could make things right?
Spineless. I miss some of my old friends, the ones who you could count on,
bet a huge amount on, the fact that they'd always have your back... Its like a kick in
the sack, just knowing, you've got nothing to fall back on. @!#$ this, Im done.
Nobody isn't saying you have to have an electric car. But if there is people that want them then if GM makes them avalible because there is a mass amount of people that want them now, Then good for GM.
I wouldn't mind having one for my 35 mile round trip to work. Then have a real fun weekend cruiser that uses fossil fuel.
ling427ttvette wrote:@!#$ electric cars, they take away all of the fun that can be had with an internal combustion engine. They will never sound like a V-8 with a 3" exhaust, sure they would be handy, but I damn sure won't ever own one. I would rather drive a Geo Metro.
i could careless wether my electric car sounds like a v8 or a effing hummingbird.
when I am getting 100+ mpg.
also you must not know anything about what electric cars are and what they are capable of. electric cars ARE faster than cumbustion engines. just a few things hold them back but those will change. things like battery capacity and charging issues.
electric cars actually dont NEED a transmission because the act of an electric motor spinning is similar to a transmission going up the gears.
look up the electric ariel atom.
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I was thinking the same thing
electric cars actually for the most part are very powerful motors that make an ungodly amount of torque for what they are. But dont get me wrong.... I love loud ass V8's and the sound of an internal combustion motor, but reality tells you it wont be around forever.
finally, an electric car that doesnt look like absolute @$$, and the interior is absolutely amazing... gm definitely needs to make this.
Check out my build thread!
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i could careless wether my electric car sounds like a v8 or a effing hummingbird.
when I am getting 100+ mpg.
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@!#$ electric cars, they take away all of the fun that can be had with an internal combustion engine. They will never sound like a V-8 with a 3" exhaust, sure they would be handy, but I damn sure won't ever own one. I would rather drive a Geo Metro.
For some people, me included, driving daily or on the weekends should be an enjoyable experience. Hybrid and probably electric (I havent test driven one as of yet) have an out of touch feeling to them it's hard to describe, atleast in my opinion.
If I've got to pay more for gas and maintenance then so be it. Experiencing the throaty sound of an exhaust and the rumble of any engine is a visceral thing. Some people want quiet and comfort, others want visual/touch/hearing based experiences that give your senses a kick in the ass...
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just a few things hold them back but those will change. things like battery capacity and charging issues.
I'd like to see some proof of them improving, I for one am not holding my breath on this. Being able to travel only 100 miles before a recharge is unacceptable to my standards, and they mentioned above a mere 40 miles. That's half of a daily commute for most of us. I'll wait for some hard evidence that they are inventing new storage devices that are physically stable in cars..the last thing they need is accidents that turns into an electrical discharge arching over the vehicle.
Quoted far too often but more true than I'd like to give credit--->I'd rather go out in a ball of flames than dying in a flash ,twitching and pissing myself...just a simple preference.
out of touch feeling? yet you have never driven one?
an electric motor has more feeling than a gas motor. electric motors have nearly INSTANT response. and %100 torque is at the first moment of accelleration. no waiting for a powerband. instant.
40 miles on that set up for the volt is only for electric motor alone on one charge. and that is why it has a turbo gas motor to operate as a generator for the electric battery charging system. which then jumps outragously.
you just dont know enough about how electric motors work to make a fair judgement.
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That's right, in concept at least, it's a battery electric car with 40 miles of EV-only driving range. Now that doesn't sound like much, but here's the secret, it has a one liter, 3-cylinder onboard, flex-fuel engine that together with the car's lithium ion batteries is projected to give the car a driving range of 640 miles. That's enough to drive from Detroit to DC on single tank of fuel.
And it can be plugged in to recharge the battery from the power grid or the owner's residential solar panels.
Of course, like any concept car, the Volt is intended to be a look into the future of what GM thinks its next generation range-extended electric car may look like. For the near-term, sources a GM tell EV World that the immediate target platform for its first range-extended electric car -- which the company insists it is applying serious research efforts towards -- will be its current global car platform on which the Opel Astra and Chevy Cobalt are based.
Clearly, GM has learned lessons from its abortive EV1 program, starting with the fact that the Volt and the Astra/Cobalt platforms are 4+ passenger vehicles instead of the two-seats of the original EV1, which plays a starring role in last summer's hit documentary, "Who Killed the Electric Car?"
Like the EV1, however, the lithium ion battery will sit in a tunnel between the passenger seats. The turbocharged, one liter 3-cylinder IC engine, which serves to power the on-board generator only, is mounted up front under the hood/bonnet.
GM envisions several different variants of the IC engine including one that will run on pure ethanol or E100. A diesel engine capable of using biodiesel might also be a future option, as could be a hydrogen fuel cell. Larry Burns, GM's VP for R&D, noted that the Volt would require only half the hydrogen storage capacity as found in the Sequel to get the same 300 miles range.
The company decided to give the car its 40 miles of electric driving range based on research that shows 78% of Americans dive less than 40 miles a day round trip to and from work. Recharged overnight from a common 110 volt outlet, the owner could end up never having the IC engine turn on during a normal week.
The car's computer controls monitor the state of charge (SOC) of the battery pack making sure it never drops below 30% SOC and never exceeds 80% SOC. This is to protect the battery and ensure a long cycle life. When the battery drops to 30 %, the IC engine turns on and through the onboard electric generator provides sufficient electric current to both drive the vehicle and recharge the battery pack. Once the pack is back to 80% SOC, the engine turns off and the vehicle runs off the power stored in the battery.
personally if i had the car i think i would probabl only have to buy MAYBE 5-10 tanks of gas per YEAR. my daily commute round trip to work out to eat to the gym is roughly 25-35 miles. that means i would NEVER in a normal day have to use ANY gasoline yet i would still have all the convenience and mobility of my current sunfire in which I fill up with gas often.
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oh and proof that battery tech is being worked on
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Of course, the biggest obstacle to making the range extended electric car a reality is the battery and towards this end, GM recently contracted with Johnson Controls and Cobasys to separately work on developing lithium ion batteries that might someday power an electric, plug-in version of its Saturn VUE/Aura vehicles, which are slated to be equipped with the GM/DaimlerChrysler/BMW-developed "Two-Mode" hybrid drive system by 2009.
Given the pace of progress being made by companies like A123, which recently partnered with Cobasys to jointly work on the GM lithium ion battery program, and Altairnano, GM thinks it'll be possible to have the batteries it needs for the Saturn plug-in program and, by extension, the Volt project sometime in the 2010 to 2012 timeframe.
That isn't that far away, folks.
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