Ive been looking for a project car for when I finish my cav and I have been looking around for quite some time now. I have pretty much made up my mind that I want to go for a inline turbo six rear wheel drive.
My 2 choices are a 2jz supra which would cost me around 15 - 20 grand
or a 240 RB 2.5 swap I wanna stick with the 2.5 unless I could find a 2.6 with the trans for less then 10.
I am really not sure witch one to go with, they both have there perks. IMO there both sexy they both have huge power potentials, they both are turbo, and they both have a huge following.
the only difference is the shock appel I think the decieding factor is do I want to bee seen in a car people know is fast or do I want to be seen in a car people find out is fast.
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2JZ!
I'm biased though since my Lexus has the 2jzge & I added a turbo set-up. I love the way the supra's look though
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In all seriousness ... why?
Novalty value aside ... why would you even bother with either of these?
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2JZ!!! But I'm biased as well because I have a Toyota Supra.
But I also think you should consider a MKIII Supra. A lot less money and almost looks like a 240. You could even swap the 2jz into it or the 1jz. So MKIII Supra FTW!
JinxedZ THE LOVED ONE wrote:In all seriousness ... why?
Novalty value aside ... why would you even bother with either of these?
i got love for the TA 2 but both the cars he mentioned would make ur car look like a geo storm if done correctly especially on the highway.
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97blkZ24 wrote:JinxedZ THE LOVED ONE wrote:In all seriousness ... why?
Novalty value aside ... why would you even bother with either of these?
i got love for the TA 2 but both the cars he mentioned would make ur car look like a geo storm if done correctly especially on the highway.
teeehee. geo storm. the best part is I love eating displacement freaks. the look on big motor faces when the lose to six's is great. its what has kept me with my cav these past few years. You have what in that...
well there everyting I want in a car. like I said turbo, RWD, inline six, and have you ever heard what they sound like. the RB motor and the 2jz are by far the best sounding motors ever (with a stock VQ close second).
both cars are uber sexy lookers, with the supra taking a super car style and the 240 (when done right / kouiko conversion) take the cake. I am preety much 50/50 on looks so it comes down to engine and handling.
Im done with straight line only and I want a car tha has an idea of what a turn is, and wont go 3 wheeling every time I cut a turn. the problem is both cars have massive poteital in every aspect and I just cant make a descion.
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Now I have nothing against Supra's by all means, but they are just damn heavy, with the RB25 240SX you'll save a few hundred pounds. Thats just my $0.02 though.
300ZX has a turbo I-6, doesn't it? Or does it have a V-6, I dunno. I suppose I could look it up, but I am so lazy right now...
Everyone is doing a 240/Silvia conversion right now anyway. I know, they are really, really, really sexy. I fell in love with Silvias a long time ago, but they are popping up everywhere. Damn you, Super Street!
You know what you don't see a ton of, and that I am a HUGE fan of? IS300's. I know they are out there, but you don't see them everyday done up. At least where I am from. I love those cars. I think there is a TRD supercharger kit and I know I have seen a turbo IS at a car show before. Plus, you get 4 doors!
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At least I knew there were 6 cyl !!! Yay for me.
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RaiLS wrote:300ZX has a turbo I-6, doesn't it? Or does it have a V-6, I dunnno
You know what you don't see a ton of, and that I am a HUGE fan of? IS300's. I know they are out there, but you don't see them everyday done up. At least where I am from. I love those cars. I think there is a TRD supercharger kit and I know I have seen a turbo IS at a car show before. Plus, you get 4 doors!
IS300's with the 2jz swap is teh sex. problem is theres just to much work with the swap. and I dont know if Im down for the 4 doors. they didnt come with 2jz's did they???
300zx's are nice but I think there way 2 80's and forget about doing engine work. the bay is tighter then vida's ass
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paco loco wrote:Alex wrote:Now I have nothing against Supra's by all means, but they are just damn heavy, with the RB25 240SX you'll save a few hundred pounds. Thats just my $0.02 though.
so true. but supras are just soooooo sexxy i mean if there good enough for mr o'conor and mr Turetto........
also Im wondering if the pound to turning abilty is worth it. I mean is the drving experince that much better.
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id go with a supra if the insurence is cheap..
it will hold its value no matter what. a 240 is still a 240... just like no matter what u do to a cavalier.. doesnt change what it is..
parts are more available since it was able to be bought in the states unlike a skyline. parts arent interchangeable like the sr20.
and for the main fact its a supra and they are sex. minus the insurence.
JinxedZ THE LOVED ONE wrote:In all seriousness ... why?
Novalty value aside ... why would you even bother with either of these?
havve you been beaten by a 4 cyl. lately???
John H [Cavalierkid wrote:]id go with a supra if the insurence is cheap..
it will hold its value no matter what. a 240 is still a 240... just like no matter what u do to a cavalier.. doesnt change what it is..
parts are more available since it was able to be bought in the states unlike a skyline. parts arent interchangeable like the sr20.
and for the main fact its a supra and they are sex. minus the insurence.
u talk about the 240 like its a cavalier. a 240 is MUCH more respected in every aspect as compared to a lonely pos cavalier. a 240 has many advantages over a supra. Power to weight, handling/cornering, hell an s14 has proven to be just as good of a drag car. Screw sex appeal, the 240 insurance for me is 400 bucks a year for liability. And holding value? ever see a BPU supra hold value? it doesn't. infact the number one bitch on the supra forums is how bad the resale is when they mod them. the 240 is one of the fewer cars that actually go up in value as u mod them. don't believe me? check out Zilvia.net and go to cars for sale
plenty of s13 over 10 grand and people are dying for em.
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u talk about the 240 like its a cavalier. a 240 is MUCH more respected in every aspect as compared to a lonely pos cavalier. a 240 has many advantages over a supra. Power to weight, handling/cornering, hell an s14 has proven to be just as good of a drag car. Screw sex appeal, the 240 insurance for me is 400 bucks a year for liability. And holding value? ever see a BPU supra hold value? it doesn't. infact the number one bitch on the supra forums is how bad the resale is when they mod them. the 240 is one of the fewer cars that actually go up in value as u mod them. don't believe me? check out Zilvia.net and go to cars for sale plenty of s13 over 10 grand and people are dying for em.
didnt mean it like that.. supra is more in the super car class like a vette or whatnot.
plus the fact your gonna have to do a swap... and the rb swap into a 240 isnt really that strait foward... i know its been done ALOT.. its just not an easy/cheap swap
your looking at several grand (5k+) for that when its all send and done.
the 2jz is dam near a tank too. bigger turbo, more boost and fuel/ems and its set.
and he asked for opinions... i gave mine. everyone is gonna have a different one. thats why its an opinion. not trying to sound dicked or anything.
i like 240s. and yes the power to weight is better and yes it would be fast with a rb. id rather have a supra.. thats all.
and again.. the part cost factor on the rb due to the fact it was never commen in the states
+1 for the rb-powered 240, f*** the supra, Nissan power forever. I just picked up a '90 hatch on friday and this will be my second 240sx. They are great cars and there are a hell of a lot of parts for them, plus you will love all of the forums there is a huge support system for them, check out 240sx.org. Just because the rb was not offered in the states does not mean that the parts are more expensive, have you ever looked at the price of Supra TT parts they are pretty much the same amount of money. Just food for thought.
PS-Get an S14 and make me proud, I know I miss mine(95-96=Zenki and 97-98=Kouki).
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just got my first rwd today. its a 93 240 SE 5speed. needs a paint job in a bad way, but with all the parts on it I felt it was worth it. payed $2900
Im going to stay with the ka motor and turbo it. alot more parts have popped up for the little "truck motor" and people are pushing around 300hp on a "stock" motor. go to KA-T.org and do some research, I wanted an RB25 too but for now and the budget Im sticking with the stock motor'.
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Apexi GT Spec 3" exhaust
Tanabe Sustec Pro full coilovers
Spec stage 3 clutch
Fidanza flywheel
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also getting two sparco-speed racing seats for...well....practically free
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Jcavi wrote:RaiLS wrote:300ZX has a turbo I-6, doesn't it? Or does it have a V-6, I dunnno
You know what you don't see a ton of, and that I am a HUGE fan of? IS300's. I know they are out there, but you don't see them everyday done up. At least where I am from. I love those cars. I think there is a TRD supercharger kit and I know I have seen a turbo IS at a car show before. Plus, you get 4 doors!
IS300's with the 2jz swap is teh sex. problem is theres just to much work with the swap. and I dont know if Im down for the 4 doors. they didnt come with 2jz's did they???
300zx's are nice but I think there way 2 80's and forget about doing engine work. the bay is tighter then vida's ass
the IS300 is a 2JZGE which is the non-turbo 2JZ. Something like 10:1/10.5:1 compression and variable valve timing I believe. The swap therefore, should not be all that hard at all, and you really don't need to swap, just put some lower compression pistons in. I'm pretty sure they're the same rods and crank, but I might be wrong. Funniest part about it is I think the IS300 is actually lighter than the supra,... mk4's were pigs.
If you honestly have the money to do either of these, well, for one, i fail to see wtf you're doing with a cavalier, and second, i'd go with the RB 240. Lighter, although the RB swap will probably make it a little nose heavy, but it'll still handle better than the supra.
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firebug wrote:just got my first rwd today. its a 93 240 SE 5speed. needs a paint job in a bad way, but with all the parts on it I felt it was worth it. payed $2900
Im going to stay with the ka motor and turbo it. alot more parts have popped up for the little "truck motor" and people are pushing around 300hp on a "stock" motor. go to KA-T.org and do some research, I wanted an RB25 too but for now and the budget Im sticking with the stock motor'.
Mods:
Injen intake
Apexi GT Spec 3" exhaust
Tanabe Sustec Pro full coilovers
Spec stage 3 clutch
Fidanza flywheel
Full energy suspension Master set (not installed)
also getting two sparco-speed racing seats for...well....practically free
heres a quick pic
don't tell him to do that!!! the KA-T is becoming the new sr20's of 240's
Although a KA is a good engine its not gonna take the power on a daily basis as well as an RB. Personal preference to me is my next 240 is gonna be a 93 vert with an RB20. same smooth sound, easier swap, motor is dirt cheap, and a turbo upgrade away from 350+ wheel.
Sorry John for gettin on ur @!#$. i just don't want a 240 in no way compared to a cavalier performance/style/quality wise. I hate my cavalier for being a POS.
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lilbit01 wrote:JinxedZ THE LOVED ONE wrote:In all seriousness ... why?
Novalty value aside ... why would you even bother with either of these?
why not?
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