hey guys...wondering if any1 of u guys own any Grand Prix GTP's....looking into buying a 2000-2003 GTP and wanting to know if theres any major problems with them or not...posted on a few GTP forums but they guys don't seem to be the "talk to the newbie" type....lol...and how are they for modding engine wise...ext. wise all i want is 18" wheels and to get it lowered....other than that i want all performance...so give me what ever kinda feedback u got....thanks guys
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check out clubgp.net. the 3800 is a pretty stout motor but you can't just start dropping pulley sizes without supporting mods. make sure you have some way to scan for kr (knock retard)...
buy a 02 vw gti glx
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The cars are pretty stout with no real problematic areas.
Tranny is strong.
Motor is strong.
Just look for the normal signs of abuse or neglect.
Wheels are a pain in the a#$. While many insist 114.3 will fit the 115 bolt patern. I just won't do it. 115 by 5 wheels are few and far between.
I own a 03 GP GT 3.8 not a GTP though, fully loaded. and is very strong... I'd say get one... Try to stay away from the color black.. black is hard to keep the swirl marks and scratches out of.. unless you plan on buffing it alot or keeping it in a garage or something along those lines.
**changes are here**
00 is the last year for the performance shift
you can add the button and wires to make the performance shift fuction
they are very good cars , like anything the older or higher milage will have some issues
my g/f got a 97 with 56,000 miles for a resonable price , the only big issue with the 97 is no trac control , 98-03 are pretty similar
low 14's are pretty easy to reach with a few mods and some good tuning
go for it!
(you all knew i would say that)
Craig Lewis wrote:
Tranny is strong.
tell that to my poor tranny
im puttin down more power than you will for a while, though, so you'll be far beyond safe with the 4t65E-hd
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Motor is strong.
damn straight it is. two 9 second cars on stock bottom ends. putting down somewhere around 700 horse.
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Just look for the normal signs of abuse or neglect.
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Wheels are a pain in the a#$. While many insist 114.3 will fit the 115 bolt patern. I just won't do it. 115 by 5 wheels are few and far between.
yes, wheels are hard to find. the 4.5 x 5 bold pattern on mustang rims (114.3mm) will fit, and im getting ready to do so, but you have to be careful.
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you can add the button and wires to make the performance shift fuction
yes, but it wont do anything unless you buy an aftermarket PCM. they're actually pretty cheap, though.
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Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
I say go for it. I love mine.
**there is only one true love in my life... and my girlfriend has learned to live with it**
been shopping around for one...but only finding 2 doors...i'm wanting a 4door and must have the heads up display...and leather....there running roughly $15-18 000 with low milage here in canada
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... i like coups better, but if you're in need of a 4 door, then i understand. back seat room's the exact same. pleanty of space. but accesibility's of course not the best with a coup.
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
whats the easiest mods u can do to the GTP and get a bit of gain???
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i'd say fwi (fenderwell intake), bigger downpipe, and a custom tune (dhp or the like) will net you some decent gains.
i just drove my friend's gtp tonight (fwi, dhp, 3"dp, 3" exhaust, intercooler, 3.0 pulley, 1.85 rockers) and i will say you should buy one... you WON'T regret it.
don't worry....i'm getting one...lol...just gotta find a good used one...
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Borsty wrote:bob tommas wrote:buy a 02 vw gti glx
SpcmnSpff302 (The Link Master) wrote:Don't, actually.
X 8 sideways
i finally jumped into the 12s.........3 days ago in an auto
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Midnight Cav/Fire wrote:whats the easiest mods u can do to the GTP and get a bit of gain???
first steps, in this order
scanner. you want to buy a good scanner and always scan your car after each step to see what it gained you KR wise
intake of some type. fenderwell intake or a cold air box intake. do NOT get an open cone in the engine bay
3" downpipe/u-bend delete.
upgraded PCM
3.5"/3.4" pulley. you'll be safer with the 3.5", but the 3.4" will give you an extra pound or two of boost
these usually net mid to low 14's in the quarter, and are usually pretty safe. some people still run these mods with KR, i had about 2* when i was running that setup, but i was on a stock PCM.
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
they are fast but guzzle the gas too. depends on what your after.
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get a BMW!!
there not only fast but great on gas
Why Do Birds Suddenly Appear wrote:they are fast but guzzle the gas too. depends on what your after.
At 120 KM/h My tach reads 2000rpm. They are very good on fuel, considerig the size, if your good with the gas pedal. I'm not, so I burn lots of gas. BMW's use fuel too, when your on it.
A scanner should be the first purchase for any FI modder. It's too bad getting that mesage across is like beating your head against a wall. You suggest a scanner and they ask how much HP does that give them.
I know that the earlier year GTP's had some problems('97-'98). But the newer years that your thinking about are all good. My cousin just got a 2000 not to long ago and after a few bolt-ons,( intake, pulley, exhaust) that thing is damn quick.
I just bought my GTP and I love it
Took it to the track last night as fast as my Z24 w/ a 2.7 pulley
15.5@89 (altitude sucks)
Also Just got my Fender well intake today
waiting to install it
Four Doors, Leather, HUD, not sure whatelse to say but GET ONE!!!
Save a Tranny, Roll-on
15.3@88m.p.h.(I/E)
15.2@94m.p.h.(S/C'd)
15.5@89m.p.h.(Stock GTP)
Why Do Birds Suddenly Appear wrote:they are fast but guzzle the gas too. depends on what your after.
im cammed running an estimated mid 13's at the track and get 15-17 mpg in town, but i cant keep my foot out of it. i get around 30-32 on the highway, though
'97 GTP's, being the first year, had no traction controll, used a different PCM, and different blower setup on the cars. the blower simply has an extra vacume tree on it, the PCM however was quite a bit different in the way it senses knock and reduces timing because of it, aka KR. '97's are notorious for partial throttle KR (most situations KR only comes at WOT). however, i have never had this problem with my car. the PCM was fixed in '98, and tractino controll was added. '97's also have the coolant overflow located behind the drivers headlight (in the way for all intake boxes, but not FWI's) and a vaccume ball in the fenderwell. you could also get '97's antennaless, like mine
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hey BLWN Z24, how was your launch at the track? im guessin you're already pretty good at launching since you had your s/c Z. just curious
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
