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Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:43 AM
I finally got my hands on one and I am so happy with it, this thing is a beast and I love it so much compared to the jap bikes. On with the pics,







Needless to say this will be putting a hold on any ideas for the Cavi








Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:46 AM
They are bad ass bikes! I agree about the Jap bike thing. I'm not feeling the color choice but hey to each there own. Nice purchase.




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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:04 PM
bike looks amzing

comparing it to jap bikes, whats better? and what jab bike u talking about

thanks
Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 1:55 PM
Jackalope wrote:They are bad ass bikes! I agree about the Jap bike thing. I'm not feeling the color choice but hey to each there own. Nice purchase.


What exactly about the jap bikes are you guys agreeing about?


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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:13 PM
Things I personally like about Buells:

1: Nearly bulletproof drivetrain.
2: Extremely torquey.
3. Minimal fairings.
4. Good price.
5. Very Reliable
6. Can hang with the Harley crowd without jeering.
7. As they're slogan says "Different in every sense." these bikes get a lot of attention.
8. I try to avoid non-American made things if possible.

Last but not least when people hear you coming and they think its just another Harley then they look up and are like WHAT THE F-CK is that??? Its priceless.

My new slogan - "I don't know why it sounds like a Harley??"





Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:19 PM
never herd of them, but i kinda like it

does it realy sounds like a harley??? u would confused the @!#$ out of me if i saw that thing driving around



Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:21 PM
yenkosuprcar wrote:Things I personally like about Buells:

1: Nearly bulletproof drivetrain.
2: Extremely torquey.
3. Minimal fairings.
4. Good price.
5. Very Reliable
6. Can hang with the Harley crowd without jeering.
7. As they're slogan says "Different in every sense." these bikes get a lot of attention.
8. I try to avoid non-American made things if possible.

Last but not least when people hear you coming and they think its just another Harley then they look up and are like WHAT THE F-CK is that??? Its priceless.

My new slogan - "I don't know why it sounds like a Harley??"


How much did you pay? Is that the Buell XB9R Firebolt?


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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:23 PM
its basically a sportster lol cool bike.. let me know if you need anything since i work at a harley dealer and i can get alot of uell parts.



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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:52 PM
Its definatly different. I dont love the look, but to each their own. I do liek the bright wheels, im thinking about doign the wheels on mine bright green or orange




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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:57 PM
Nice bike, but i find the buells to be very small, dont like riding them at all. to me they are the most uncomfortable of the sport bikes.
Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 8:50 PM
Friend of mine has one. nice bike, i wouldnt say it sounds like a harley, but not a jap bike.




Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:52 PM
SunfireN2o wrote:i wouldnt say it sounds like a harley

ummm... IT'S A HARLEY SPORTSTER MOTOR, IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE A HARLEY!!!





with that out of the way... nice bike. probably the ugliest color scheme I've witnessed on a motorcycle, but I like it in general. If I could afford one, I'd have a Lightning XB-12Ss:

I think it is the most confortable sportbike I've ever sat on. Everything just falls perfectly in to place. Plus, since it's the stretched-out version, you gain an extra gallon of fuel capacity.



although, I have to disagree about them being reliable. It is, after all, a Harley


I'd recommend doing this thing here as your first mod. It'll cure the signature Harley clunky transmission.





Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:27 AM
Welcome to the Buell family yenkosuprcar!! Beautiful Bike. A word of advice: Stay away from releasing the clutch in 1st or 2nd gear if you have the revs near or above 5500, you will looking skyward on one wheel!! (unless of course thats what you want) However, its not like you'll need any extra attention. I pulled into a parking lot to meet up with some guys the other day, there was a brand new 06 R-1 and a fat guy on a chromed out Hyabusa that everyone was in love with, that is until they payed no attention to anything but the heart pounding sound of my Drummer exhaust belting out 984 CCs of American Thunder!!!


Ian Brown Music wrote:
ummm... IT'S A HARLEY SPORTSTER MOTOR, IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE A HARLEY!!!

although, I have to disagree about them being reliable. It is, after all, a Harley


I'd recommend doing this thing here as your first mod. It'll cure the signature Harley clunky transmission.


No offense Ian, its not a sportster motor by any stretch. Maybe a sportster platform but not the same. Sportster comes in 883 CCs and 1200 CCs. XBs come in 984 and 1203 CCs. 883 Sportsters are still without Fuel Injection. Motor cases are different sizes, pistons, heads and oil pumps are Buell one-offs. The only thing that Buell and the Sportster have shared since the late 90's are cams. The 1200 CC Sportster XL and both 9 and 12 Buell motors have identical grinds. The very first Buells however (until mid - late 90's) were simply as you put : Sportster Motors in a Buell motorcycle.

As for reliability, mine is rock solid with the exception of a typical Harley owned product ; Gaskets. It seems HD has a habit of releasing a bike with a paper gasket only to realize that it will inevitably leak and then offer better metal replacements.

As for anyone reading this post and considering a Buell and clicking on the Hayden M6 link. DONT. Auto adjusters are not cool with a Buell Primary. Has been well documented. Check it out @ www.badweatherbikers.com

And the clunky shifting is almost intentional, as a result of enough torque anywhere, thats ANYWHERE in the power band pull away from any other bike in the world, even if it is only momentary (131 MPH tach - out)

Enjoy!










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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:01 AM
ND XB wrote:

And the clunky shifting is almost intentional, as a result of enough torque anywhere, thats ANYWHERE in the power band pull away from any other bike in the world, even if it is only momentary (131 MPH tach - out)



EDIT: Guess I should have chosen my words more carefully. Definately not ANY bike in the world, but the smooth power and consistent availibility allows me to pull away from anybody that I ride with because while I flick the wrist and its there, other have to start moving the foot around and shifting down to get the revs required to make power.









CastorTroy24
Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:27 AM
AGuSTiN, Its nothing personal with Jap bikes its just I was raised around Harley's and am a HUGE fan of them.
Buell is the sport bike division (sort of ) of Harley so it makes sence I'd like them.




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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:12 AM
Thanks for all of the comments guys, yes its a Firebolt 9R.

ND XB - Wonder what the XB stands for in your name?? Thats a nice looking Bolt you got there! How much is the drummer? I've heard such good things about it!



Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:32 AM
Congrats on the new bike. Ride safe, smart, and have fun!




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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:38 AM
yenkosuprcar wrote:Things I personally like about Buells:

1: Nearly bulletproof drivetrain.
2: Extremely torquey.
3. Minimal fairings.
4. Good price.
5. Very Reliable
6. Can hang with the Harley crowd without jeering.
7. As they're slogan says "Different in every sense." these bikes get a lot of attention.
8. I try to avoid non-American made things if possible.

Last but not least when people hear you coming and they think its just another Harley then they look up and are like WHAT THE F-CK is that??? Its priceless.

My new slogan - "I don't know why it sounds like a Harley??"


I don't know. I looked at Buells but avoided them BECAUSE they were Harley derived. I have serious doubts about #1, all Harley owners say that about their new bikes despite recent history. #4 I don't get either. Don't those list for $10,000? Most "Jap" 600's have 40-50 hp on your bike and cost $1500 less.

#6.. I spent all day Sat at a Cruiser bike show. No one jeered. I go to the Harley biker bars, too. All the Harley guys know someone else who's gonna one day show up and kick my ass lol. At least here in California. Maybe back east the Harley riders are actually tough and don't just know someone else who is.

#7 and #8 I understand. They are different and I also have been caught looking one over from time to time. Buell has some cool innovations like have the fuel in the frame, etc. And trying to buy American is admirable.


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Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Wednesday, May 10, 2006 12:18 PM
^^^^^^^^^^

I honestly don't know what they list for, or really care because I'm 21 and the insurance for this is enough,

Umm, 05 CBR 600 f4i makes 18 more horses but I've got 25 more foot pounds of torque, remember horespower is an mathmatic number torque is real From what I have seen the prices are usually a little bit cheaper than similarly equiped Jappers of a similar year blah blah.

I don't know about the Harley riders out east as I am in the dead center of Iowa but thats cool that they are nice to you I have seen people get heckled around here.

BTW I have seen a pic of your bike on here and it is sweet looking!

Thats cool that you have looked at Buell's you should really take one for a ride it is a world apart from your bike, hey you never know you might like



Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Friday, May 12, 2006 12:52 PM
ND XB wrote:No offense Ian, its not a sportster motor by any stretch. Maybe a sportster platform but not the same.

what I meant was, the V is in the same angle and it's a single-pin crank. It sounds like a Harley





also, I'm interested why the chain tensioners do not work on Buells. Could you shed a little light on this for me?







Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Friday, May 12, 2006 2:51 PM
just cuz its a v-twin dont make it a harley, nor does it make it sound like a harley.

Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Friday, May 12, 2006 2:52 PM
sorry^^^^^^^ meant to say same as a harley*
Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Friday, May 12, 2006 6:41 PM
no @!#$? my bike's a V-Twin, and I thought it was a Harley. I guess I am wrong


apparently you didn't know that Harleys are the only bikes that sound like Harleys for a simple reason:

[quote Wikipedia]The classic Harley-Davidson engines are two-cylinder, V-twin engines with the pistons placed at a 45 degree angle. The crankshaft has a single pin, and both pistons are connected to this pin through their connecting rods. This design causes the pistons to fire at uneven intervals.

On the V-twin, the sequence is as follows:

1. the first piston fires (this is the 0° position)
2. the other piston fires at 315° into the stroke
3. there is a 405° gap (as both cylinders go through their exhaust stroke) until the first piston fires again

This design, which is covered under several United States patents, gives the Harley-Davidson V-twin its unique "potato-potato" sound


so, um, since it is (in essence) an Evo motor, it sounds like a Harley






Re: Buell: American Motorcycles
Friday, May 12, 2006 8:45 PM
ND XB wrote:


Ian Brown Music wrote:
ummm... IT'S A HARLEY SPORTSTER MOTOR, IT SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE A HARLEY!!!

although, I have to disagree about them being reliable. It is, after all, a Harley


I'd recommend doing this thing here as your first mod. It'll cure the signature Harley clunky transmission.


No offense Ian, its not a sportster motor by any stretch. Maybe a sportster platform but not the same. Sportster comes in 883 CCs and 1200 CCs. XBs come in 984 and 1203 CCs. 883 Sportsters are still without Fuel Injection. Motor cases are different sizes, pistons, heads and oil pumps are Buell one-offs. The only thing that Buell and the Sportster have shared since the late 90's are cams. The 1200 CC Sportster XL and both 9 and 12 Buell motors have identical grinds. The very first Buells however (until mid - late 90's) were simply as you put : Sportster Motors in a Buell motorcycle.

As for reliability, mine is rock solid with the exception of a typical Harley owned product ; Gaskets. It seems HD has a habit of releasing a bike with a paper gasket only to realize that it will inevitably leak and then offer better metal replacements.

As for anyone reading this post and considering a Buell and clicking on the Hayden M6 link. DONT. Auto adjusters are not cool with a Buell Primary. Has been well documented. Check it out @ www.badweatherbikers.com

And the clunky shifting is almost intentional, as a result of enough torque anywhere, thats ANYWHERE in the power band pull away from any other bike in the world, even if it is only momentary (131 MPH tach - out)

Enjoy!








From what i have seen, Is that it is still the same motor as the sporsters, but they have changed the oiling system. which is why they look diffrent. . as for engine sizes they bored the stock cylinders out on them alittle. other then that still the same.. but i can be wrong since we dont sell buells any more.


any one see the new racing bike they have??????




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