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Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 12:59 AM
I'll admit... I've been cheating on my 99 Z24 with this plus-sized British hottie named the 2005 Triumph Rocket III. Fastest production cruiser in stock form on the market. Father owns one, and I've been helping him mod it on the weekends. Yea... mod it. Just thought I'd share this glorious machine with everyone out there who wasn't familiar with it

Burgundy


Yellow


Wheelie - With 147ft-lb and a fat-a$$ rear wheel... this can almost be done by accident.


Red


Rear


Engine


Custom Fender & Tank


Gagues


Transmission & Shifter


MASSIVE REAR WHEEL


A Radiator to be Reckoned With


Once I get my digi. cam back I'll snap some pics of the bike. Maybe a few videos too


Pieces of a cool review from the Minnesota Motorcycle Monthly:
Quote:

Thankfully appearances deceive and the Rocket works much better than it should. It's balanced, fast, has excellent brakes, fast, handles well, and did I mention that it's fast?
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Displacing a class-busting 2300cc's, Triumph claims some 140 bhp and 147 ft/lbs of torque, strong enough to shove even a tobacco barn down the road. Impressive? Yes, but scary too. In any gear, I could whack the throttle open and the bike slammed forward like an angry F-18 on full afterburner.
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I never forgot that motorcycling's biggest baddest dog was pounding away between my legs.
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Inside the silvery cases lives a fuel injected liquid-cooled oversquare DOHC powerplant with 4 valves per cylinder activated via shim and bucket. 2 sparkplugs for each cylinder light the mixture and the 120-degree crank spins clockwise while balance, input and final-drive shafts all rotate the other way.
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Those monster throttle bodies suck loud air, the horizon goes blurry, and around fifty-five hundred the mill really howls. By then you'll back off anyway, palms sweaty and eyeballs itchy from windburn. This thing flat-out cooks.
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The Rocket uses an advanced digital engine management system. Various sensors (throttle body, engine revs, coolant/ambient temperature and exhaust gas) all feed information back to the ECU. A master chip processes the data and balances throttle valves, timing and fuel delivery for optimum performance. Basically the engine maps itself, cylinder by cylinder, for the best possible running.
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A first for any Triumph, final drive is shaft and bevel gear inside super-thick alloy cases. What else could be counted on to reliably control the bike's enormous power and torque?
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Clutch pull is feathery light with progressive engagement easily controlled even though this is, yes, you guessed it, the largest clutch ever fitted to a production bike.
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One of the bike's idiosyncrasies is a lack of engine braking. Maybe it's due to the 39-pound flywheel
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In spite of its intimidating size and weight, I was able to toss the machine into corners almost like a sportbike.
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Styling is best described as "completely bonkers meets incredible excess".
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The curved shift lever rubbed my left foot sore, but your feet are likely smaller. Besides, with 147 ft/lbs of torque on tap, shifting is entirely optional.
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The throttle delivers euphoria just like those hand-held morphine drips in the hospital emergency room.



ROCKET III Specs:

Engine Type Liquid-cooled, DOHC, in-line 3-cylinder
Capacity 2294cc; 2.3L
Bore/Stroke 101.6 x 94.3mm
Compression Ratio 8.7:1
Fuel System Multipoint sequential electronic fuel injection
Ignition Digital - inductive type - via electronic engine management system
Transmission Primary Drive Gear
Final Drive Shaft
Clutch Wet, multi-plate
Gearbox 5-speed
Cycle Parts Frame Tubular steel, twin spine
Swingarm Twin-sided, steel
Front Wheel Alloy 5-spoke, 17 x 3.5in
Rear Wheel Alloy 5-spoke, 16 x 7.5in
Front Tyre 150/80 R 17
Rear Tyre 240/50 R 16
Front Suspension 43mm upside down forks
Rear Suspension Chromed spring twin shocks with adjustable preload
Front Brakes Twin 320mm floating discs, 4 piston calipers
Rear Brakes Single 316mm disc, 2 piston caliper
Dimensions Length 2500mm (98.4in)
Width (Handlebars) 970mm (38.2in)
Height 1165mm (45.9in)
Seat Height 740mm (29.1in)
Wheelbase 1695mm (66.7in)
Rake/Trail 32 degree/152mm
Weight (Dry) 320kg (704lbs)
Fuel Tank Capacity 24 liters (6.3gal)
Performance (Measured at crankshaft to DIN 70020) Maximum Power 142PS (140bhp) at 6,000 rpm
Maximum Torque 200Nm (147ft.lbf) at 2,500 rpm
0-60Mhp 3.4 seconds!!!!!!!!

Ever wanna have the s**t scared of you test-drive one of these. First time I sat on it it was totally stock, none of the mods my father and I have done to it. Idling around 600-700RPM in his driveway, you tap the throtle to give it what you think is gonna be a SMALL rev, and the f**kin tachometer instantly lands on 3500RPM (even with a 39-lb flywheel). There's so much torque FROM IDLE ALL THE WAY UP, EVEN WHEN YOU'RE OUT OF GEAR that with the smallest rev, the whole 700-lb bike throws itself to the right. To combat this, the clever Brits added another shaft inside the transmission that rotates opposite the direction of the final driveshaft, pushing the torque's force to both the left and right, and thus dampening the violent "shove" you would other wise get without it. Even with that, this thing still has an intimidating kick when you give it any throttle input. Shifting gears really is OPTIONAL (figuratively). No fighting with the shifter to get in your useful high-rpm power range maintain speed up a hill. Whatever gear you pick, at any RPM, and at any speed, just pull on the throttle a slight amount, and you'll be accellerating like mad.

Odd part is, there's already some guy out there who has Turbocharged this thing. Somewhere in the 230WHP range if I remember correctly. That's insane. If I ever find 1/4-mile and 0-60 times for his bike vs. stock bike I'll post em up.

This thing is THE beast... if I had a snowball's chance in hell of taking on another financing payment, I would have one. Just thought I'd share





Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 1:17 AM
man thats a nice bike.... although british electrical systems will always make me nervous How much does one of those suckers run?




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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 3:35 AM
Thinking high 8s to 10s?


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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:41 AM
Exhaust is damn ugly, other than that its not too bad. I'd still rather take a Valkyrie Rune over it anyday for styling.

The power is nice but nuthin to make me jump out of my shorts over. I'd still pick a Harley or a Valkyrie or Victory. Even if they don't make the same power. There is however 600cc sport bikes pushin that power.
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:22 AM
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:Thinking high 8s to 10s?


I highly doubt that. It weighs over 700 pounds and has under 150 hp/ft pounds. It's got good power for driving around town and running from light to light but that thing would need a rocket straped to the fender to run 10's let alone 8's.
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:46 AM
ChrisIDV wrote:
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:Thinking high 8s to 10s?


I highly doubt that. It weighs over 700 pounds and has under 150 hp/ft pounds. It's got good power for driving around town and running from light to light but that thing would need a rocket straped to the fender to run 10's let alone 8's.


are you serious?
that thing should run 10's pretty easily



Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:48 AM
Until someone can prove otherwise, no it can't. Do the math.
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:11 AM
i was asking for a MSRP, not a projected 1/4 ET lol..... 850 lbs (assuming a 150 lb drive) would probably pretty easily do mid 11's but i'm not sure if it would be any faster than that. I've always liked triumph though, and when it comes to bikes racing doesn't really matter to me cuz i'd be too scared to do a sub 12 pass with no safety cage around me lol. i like the security of a car and having some "armor" around me when racing.




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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:20 AM
Ive driven my dads 850 Commando quite a few times. Although it was made in 1974 I think its VERY fast. lol Just not very reliable

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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:49 AM
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:i was asking for a MSRP, not a projected 1/4 ET lol..... 850 lbs (assuming a 150 lb drive) would probably pretty easily do mid 11's but i'm not sure if it would be any faster than that. I've always liked triumph though, and when it comes to bikes racing doesn't really matter to me cuz i'd be too scared to do a sub 12 pass with no safety cage around me lol. i like the security of a car and having some "armor" around me when racing.
Right on the money.

Motorcyclist Online wrote:Triumph Rocket 3 = 11.30sec @ 119.84 Stock


Father financed this bike at $24,500 from Lexington Motorsports.

Any you're also right about the british electrical systems... it make no sense at all, and has proven to be very volatile, picky, and sometimes more complex than it needed to be at all.

Current mods:
*Jardine performance exhaust
*Bored / Port-matched exh. manifold (head and collector)
*Removed catalytic converter
*Reprogrammed ECU
- Removed fuel / ignition limiters for 1st & 2nd gears (made to maintain fuel effieiency in lower gears), ~~+7% horsepower in those gears
- Recalibrated fuel / ignition for new exhaust to maintain correct A/F Ratio, ran lean on hi-flow exhaust w/o reflash
- General fuel / ignition improvements
*K&N drop-in air filter for now, looking into full aftermarket intake, no luck so far this is the current project.

Future Mods:
*Full aftermarket intake system, temporary until turbocharged.
*P&P head
*Custom-grind cams, very mild (gotta be some company out there who will do it)
*Sooner or later to be turbocharged. I think the turbo setup the other guy did used a Mitusbishi Super 15G or 16G. Not sure.
*Full custom exhaust manifold and collector section for turbo.
*Forged pistons, stronger rods

There is a guy who rigged up a dry nitrous system to it... I don't think that'll be necessary



Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:10 AM
The GoOoOch wrote:Exhaust is damn ugly, other than that its not too bad. I'd still rather take a Valkyrie Rune over it anyday for styling.

The power is nice but nuthin to make me jump out of my shorts over. I'd still pick a Harley or a Valkyrie or Victory. Even if they don't make the same power. There is however 600cc sport bikes pushin that power.
Yes, the whole bike has kind of sub-par styling, but that's what the Brits are good for

I sure hope you wouldn't consider buying any kind of Harley ever....

Yes, there are small-engine sport bikes that make comparable Horsepower, but fewer of them can match the Torque, and they're certainly not cruisers, and they sure as HELL don't sound as cool as this thing. It's like taking a sub-2.0 Liter Honda with a fart-can and comparing it to a cammed and blown open-header Chevelle, they're just not the same animal as far as sound goes. It'll be even cooler when it also has a BOV sound





Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:11 AM
Not my cup of tea.



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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:17 AM
LD9 Fury!(Shopping for an Eco) wrote:
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:i was asking for a MSRP, not a projected 1/4 ET lol..... 850 lbs (assuming a 150 lb drive) would probably pretty easily do mid 11's but i'm not sure if it would be any faster than that. I've always liked triumph though, and when it comes to bikes racing doesn't really matter to me cuz i'd be too scared to do a sub 12 pass with no safety cage around me lol. i like the security of a car and having some "armor" around me when racing.
Right on the money.

Motorcyclist Online wrote:Triumph Rocket 3 = 11.30sec @ 119.84 Stock


Father financed this bike at $24,500 from Lexington Motorsports.

Any you're also right about the british electrical systems... it make no sense at all, and has proven to be very volatile, picky, and sometimes more complex than it needed to be at all.

Current mods:
*Jardine performance exhaust
*Bored / Port-matched exh. manifold (head and collector)
*Removed catalytic converter
*Reprogrammed ECU
- Removed fuel / ignition limiters for 1st & 2nd gears (made to maintain fuel effieiency in lower gears), ~~+7% horsepower in those gears
- Recalibrated fuel / ignition for new exhaust to maintain correct A/F Ratio, ran lean on hi-flow exhaust w/o reflash
- General fuel / ignition improvements
*K&N drop-in air filter for now, looking into full aftermarket intake, no luck so far this is the current project.

Future Mods:
*Full aftermarket intake system, temporary until turbocharged.
*P&P head
*Custom-grind cams, very mild (gotta be some company out there who will do it)
*Sooner or later to be turbocharged. I think the turbo setup the other guy did used a Mitusbishi Super 15G or 16G. Not sure.
*Full custom exhaust manifold and collector section for turbo.
*Forged pistons, stronger rods

There is a guy who rigged up a dry nitrous system to it... I don't think that'll be necessary


with your mods it should be in the high 10's



Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:25 AM
themarin8r wrote:with your mods it should be in the high 10's


I thought you said it should run 10's stock???
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:45 AM
ChrisIDV wrote:
themarin8r wrote:with your mods it should be in the high 10's


I thought you said it should run 10's stock???
No that's just an estimation Bballjamal and themarin8r made. Check my last post, it dialed in 11.30 @ 119.84 Stock. There's a good change it's in the 10's with the mods done to it.

ChrisIDV wrote:
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:Thinking high 8s to 10s?
I highly doubt that. It weighs over 700 pounds and has under 150 hp/ft pounds. It's got good power for driving around town and running from light to light but that thing would need a rocket straped to the fender to run 10's let alone 8's.
Chris, I think you've got the it confused with a Harley My apologies Harley fans!




Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:46 AM
I would rather ride a Victory or a Valkyrie over that thing any day. As far as not being comparible to sport bikes, no its not. When u say try comparing a chevelle to a civic, well nothin like that at all. For one the bikes not blown, cammed and open header'd.

Right now i got a street bike, hopin to get a second cruiser soon. Both have there advantages, both just as comfortable to cruise distances on. If you know how to ride properly on a sport bike.
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:49 AM
I am confused about nothing. I was being a smart ass.
Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:03 AM
The GoOoOch wrote:I would rather ride a Victory or a Valkyrie over that thing any day. As far as not being comparible to sport bikes, no its not. When u say try comparing a chevelle to a civic, well nothin like that at all. For one the bikes not blown, cammed and open header'd.

Right now i got a street bike, hopin to get a second cruiser soon. Both have there advantages, both just as comfortable to cruise distances on. If you know how to ride properly on a sport bike.
LOL I'm aware of this, it was just an exaggerated analogy, take it easy. Didn't say it was faster / more powerful than a good sport bike. They're totally different animals, can't really compare them, and I wasn't trying to... just commenting on the sound.

ChrisIDV wrote:I am confused about nothing. I was being a smart ass.
I know you were, so was I man!

Let's all lighten up folks... I'm just sharing info on a bike that I find to be pretty cool. This isn't a "a Harley's better" or a "Honda's prettier" or a "Sport Bikes are faster" competition. Any and all comments / questions are welcome (and I'm sure I'll get em whether I like it or not ), so let's keep the conversation light-hearted. This isn't Versus (R.I.P.)




Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:18 AM
ChrisIDV wrote:I am confused about nothing. I was being a smart ass.


you got the ass part right....



Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 5:12 PM
lol




Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 6:35 PM
www.motorcyclistonline.com wrote:While prerelease hype suggested it might be the quickest and fastest straightline motorcycle ever, there are in fact other Triumphs that will give the Rocket III a run for its money. That said, a best quarter-mile run of 11.27 seconds at 119.92 mph remains a very impressive achievement for such a huge motorcycle.


If you are looking for a bike like this, get a Yamaha V-Max, faster(10.5 - 11.0 quarter mile) and has a thinner leg stance for better handling, and is $4500 cheaper.

Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:56 PM
the V-Max and Rocket 3 aren't even comparable. the only similarity they have is big power (and not-so-great handling). the V-Max was designed as a Hooligan bike, pure and simple. it's the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Mustang or Camaro - fast, powerful-looking, and has a high fun-per-dollar ratio. the Rocket, on the other hand, is like an S-Class Mercedes - big, powerful, elegantly-styled, and not meant to be a racer.



so, what do you want to drive, a musclecar or luxo-barge?






BTW - that's a fine-ass bike






Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:39 PM


Call me crazy.. but isn't it a good idea to keep your hands on the handle-bars instead of taking a pic @ 50mph?





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Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:55 PM
Ian Brown Music wrote:the V-Max and Rocket 3 aren't even comparable. the only similarity they have is big power (and not-so-great handling). the V-Max was designed as a Hooligan bike, pure and simple. it's the 2-wheeled equivalent of a Mustang or Camaro - fast, powerful-looking, and has a high fun-per-dollar ratio. the Rocket, on the other hand, is like an S-Class Mercedes - big, powerful, elegantly-styled, and not meant to be a racer.



so, what do you want to drive, a musclecar or luxo-barge?






BTW - that's a fine-ass bike
V Max is pretty kicka$$ too. I never knew what to think of it though. Admittedly, a lot more suited for racing over the Rocket. Has a very striking profile with the sport-bike appearance we all like, and the formidable 70-degree V-4 strapped in there. At 580lbs versus the Rocket's 704lbs it's definitely got the upper hand in that field as well. I'd hit it And you're right, the Rocket's like driving a cement truck on 2 wheels compared to a lot of bikes (actually MOST bikes) when it comes to handling. Doesn't help that I weigh 230lbs on top of the bike's 704lbs. That's almost a half-ton of pure manliness flyin down the street




Re: Triumph Rocket 3, 56K = Patience
Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:00 PM
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:

Call me crazy.. but isn't it a good idea to keep your hands on the handle-bars instead of taking a pic @ 50mph?
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