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Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 12:29 PM
Ok i've been looking and everyone seems to think type R's are the thing to have. What exactly is different in a typeR than in a regular integra? Is it like V Tech?

Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 12:32 PM
vtech is a phone company. vtec is honda technology.




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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 12:38 PM
it has 130ft lbs of torque opposed to 120 something, i dont know what is so great about them honestly



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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 12:50 PM
I now the have a LSD diff thats surpossed to be completely bullit proof, plus I now they are the only modle with 5 lug wheels instead of 4 lugs on the rest and the engine does have a higher output slightly, cause of liek 11:1 compression or soemthign liek that, I know it up there... but to be honest the "Type R" is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over hyped



Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 12:52 PM
Darkstars wrote:but to be honest the "Type R" is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over hyped



by the way this is MY opinion.... when you Honda lovers show up and don't liek that comment to bad



Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 1:01 PM
quick and light... around here you couldnt get no power windows, etc.. the only option im aware of was A/C and most i've seen around here dont even have that... but i'm sure in the states you could get pw, pdl, pm, etc, etc...




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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 1:02 PM
The biggest thing about the typeR is the hp per liter. Check it out, its higher then most supercars if I remember correctly, MAY BE WRONG.



Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 1:03 PM
^ ^ they made them like that so they are light. No options.
R= racing.




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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 2:02 PM
hp per liter doesn't mean @!#$ when a bottle have coke has more displacement

hp per lb is what actually affects a vehicle



Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 2:59 PM
the diff between the reg integra and the type r, is like the diff between a base corvette and a zo6. pretty much everything is changed. a lil more power, better suspension, lighter weight, chassis stiffeners come stock. it is a complete better car.





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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 3:17 PM
and they have carbon fiber trim interior!




Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 3:26 PM
well a regular teg has about 140 hp and like 120 ft/lbs and a Type R has about 200 hp and i think 130 or 140 ft/lbs......just a lil bit of an increase



Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 4:20 PM
isnt the GS-R like almost the samething....except cams and a few other misc. parts. Most GS-R are like 180 or around there. I know the hp isnt that much different then the Hype R.
I think its more of a look who has more money. Theres a guy that has one round here though, dam quick lil car.


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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 5:18 PM
a stock type r motor in an ek civic is good for 13's. my 2 cents




Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 5:25 PM
man just buy a type r

its an amazing car over alllllll

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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 5:35 PM
THe Type R is a very, very well handling car. Probably the best FWD car ever besides the Mini Cooper S. Standard LSD and the engine will go 8500+rpm no problem. Very quick cars on the top end. The hype is well deserved for that car.


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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 5:50 PM
are you guys kidding? obviously because they have the "Type-R" Badges























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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 5:58 PM
ITR B18C5, GS-R, B18C1, ITR had more HP/Tq, and was probably a better trim package (that part not sure) also, the ITR had 5 lug pattern, while all over Integras etc had 4, thats the biggest give away, not sure why, maybe for the better relability..


Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 7:04 PM
If a turbo is in mind for the car, a regular integra is much more receptive than the Type R motor.


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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 8:13 PM
Okay...

Type-R Integra's come with a B18C engine (or a B18C5 engine if RHD JDM, I may be wrong). They displace out at roughly 1.8Litres, and have a brake HP output of just about 100hp/l, this is very good for a Inline 4 cylinder engine.

From here, I may be off the mark, and please correct me if I'm wrong ( I won't bite, promise!)

The DC5 Integra body remains the same throughout the line, with the exception of the 4 dr. models. The biggest differences between a Type-R and the next model down (GSR) is the inclusion of a factory LSD, revised suspension (IIRC larger F/R sway bars and other little tweaks), tighter transmission gearing, and conversion from 4 to 5 lug hubs, as well as minor aerostyling-package differences Rim/Tire combo and badging.

The Type-R Integra is still a very good all-round vehicle, however, the K-series engines from Honda have outpaced the B series engines in most respects, including top end HP, and low end TQ.

If you want to Boost a VTEC equipped B/H/Z series engine, it is possible, but you will need some extra electronics to get the engine computer and the turbo to jive and not over power the head gasket by over pressurizing the cylinder when VTEC kicks in.

The simpler route is to either build up a non-VTEC engine, or consider going the N/A route.



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Re: Type R
Monday, October 31, 2005 8:28 PM
It's 25hp up on the GSR engine. They replaced the GSR's twin runners per cylinder intake manifold with a single wide port version for higher gas celocities, they dropped in higher lift, longer dwell camshafts and lighet, thin stem valves. They hand polished the ports. Revised muffler to increase exhaust gas flow by 30 percent. The bottom end of the engine benefits from a balanced eight counter weight crank with trick metallurgy to increase the bend fatigue limit by 25 percent. Connecting rods are specific to the TYpe R and ar hand torqued for better quality control. The pistons are molybdenum coated lightweight die castings that have extra wrist pin lubcircation paths, a new crown shape for the 10.6:1 compression ratio and deeper valve pockets to accomidate the greater valce excursions. They trimmed the weight 140lbs and added a lighter flywheel. They added an oil cooler and a limited slip differential. (Keep in mind this was back in 97 when these came with LSD, and I believe even now just SOME cars are starting to incorporate this like the new SRT4) And now the suspension additions since the Type R was known for it's handling more than it's power. To stiffen the structure, a larger aluminum shock tower bar replaces the GSR's steel, two "performance rods" brace the rear cross member and tail section, and there is thicker metal at the roof rails, the rear pillars, and the suspension mounting points. Five lug wheels and bigger brakes were fitted onto the suspension beefed up with higher rate springs, thicker bars, and more tightly valved shocks. The rear wheels have larger, stiffer bearings for better camber control and are pinned by a stabalizer bar increased in thickness from 13 to 22 millimieters. (That was all out of a magazine)
It only had "carbon fiber" trim in 2000 and 2001. hehe. It's 195hp engine with 130lb/tq. Of course the Contour SVT was a V6 with 195hp and 195lb/tq and that didn't stop the Type R from tearing it up in every category when compared. More to a car than just tq numbers. A Type R can handle a turbo quite well if you actually do it right.



Re: Type R
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:38 AM
GAM, chassis code for the (3rd gen) Integra Type R's is DC2. DC5 would be the RSX chassis.

A lot of the hype with the Type R is the fact that it was a limited production vehicle. There were only so many brought over each year (US numbers are 750 in 97, 1500 in 98, 0 in 99, 2000 in 2000 and 2000(?) in 2001) and each one was numbered.

It's got the best of the infamous honda B-series engines in them (which only in the last couple years are being eclipsed by the K-series engines) the B18C5 with 195 hp@8000 rpm and 130 ft lbs of torque @7000rpm. The only better B-series engine would be the JDM Integra Type R engine referenced to my knowledge as just B18C (spec R) and it had ~197 hp (converted from 200 ps) and 137 ft lbs at the same rpms.

The car was very much a FWD track car sold to the public; before 2000 they didn't even have AC and hung with and beat cars on the track (not drag strip) that it honestly had no business being on the same track with.

Is the car overhyped? yes. but it shouldn't take away from what the car was actually capable of especially when compared to the other cars of it's time (no SRT4's, Cobalt SS, Ion redline, STI, EVO, etc. etc..) and is probably part of the reason we have some of the cars we do today.

have a look at some of the articles here for more info..
http://www.team-integra.net/sections/articles/listArticles.asp?Show=5



Re: Type R
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 8:26 AM
They are sweet and kinda rare. They hold their value really well from what I've seen. You may be better finding a GSR and installing Type R goodies on it.

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Re: Type R
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:06 AM
it doesn't have a rear window wiper either...




Re: Type R
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:17 AM
Marcus The Cavy Racer wrote:Ok i've been looking and everyone seems to think type R's are the thing to have. What exactly is different in a typeR than in a regular integra? Is it like V Tech?


it's simply one of the best lap cars you can buy. Name any other car, the type r probably outpaces it on a circuit.

The chassis is different, it's lighter because of less sound deadening material, the transmission has LSD and super short gears. The suspension is extremely good. It has 195 hp as opposed to the gs-r's 170 hp and the rs's 142 hp.

All things said, it's like a baby race car in a class of its own.



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