anyone else have problems with understeer I have a 93 cavy and the understeer on it is a pain.
ya sorry thats what i ment whats the best way to reduce the effects of understeer. I'm guessing tires help alot to reduce that too.
Evan Griggs wrote:ya sorry thats what i ment whats the best way to reduce the effects of understeer. I'm guessing tires help alot to reduce that too.
Biggest rear sway bar you can get your hands on and much better tires are a good start. Also gotta learn to not over push the car into the turns (learn the limits) otherwise it will just go into a horrible skid.
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yea understeer is a bitch
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For the record... I've left this here so people can give the guy some driving advice for dealing with the understeer.
Brake early... hold speed through the corner... etc.
Otherwise it might as well be moved to the suspension forum. I'm assuming he's talking about understeer in the course of an autox event or something and not just in general.
If you want to eliminate some understeer try stiffening up the rear with a sway bar. You can also run your rear tire pressures up to like 50-60psi. Run the fronts somewhere around 40-45 if they are regular street tires.
I wouldn run my pressures that high on the street though, only for racing.
Oh poly lower control arm bushings, swaybar D bushings, and endlinks help out.
A rear swaybar is definatly next on the list.
As far a driving goes . . .brake late but not too late, turn before you think you should, accelerate out of the corner.
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anyone else have problems with understeer I have a 93 cavy and the understeer on it is a pain.
What you have to due is called "Left Foot Braking" When approaching the corner attack it from the outside. Press in the chlutch and gas. Use your e-brake to lock the rear wheels and induce the ass end of the J to kick out. Turn toward the inside of the corner and kill the e brake while you double clutch. This will allow an FF to recover and acellerate through the cornor.
Another trick is to up sift into red on approaching a corner. This will use the natural drag of the trans to slow you down as you attack it in the same way you would in a LFB move. WARNING: Use this move carfully as it can damage the transmission.
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Double clutching through the corner? Somebody's been watching a little too much F&F...
I think your effort is better spent with both hands on the steering wheel and looking ahead than trying to find the right RPM's to downshift and fooling with the parking brake. Left foot braking is simply using your left foot to press the brake. Its useful for those that need to keep their engine rpm's up through the corner by pressing the gas the same time as the brake.
Again, to summarize what others have said, the best ways to compromise for understeer are:
1. Performance alignment
2. Raise the air pressure of the rear tires
3. Brake at the last second to transfer the most weight possible to the front.
yup, mine does it horribly when i launch
Team Tach Out wrote:Quote:
anyone else have problems with understeer I have a 93 cavy and the understeer on it is a pain.
What you have to due is called "Left Foot Braking" When approaching the corner attack it from the outside. Press in the chlutch and gas. Use your e-brake to lock the rear wheels and induce the ass end of the J to kick out. Turn toward the inside of the corner and kill the e brake while you double clutch. This will allow an FF to recover and acellerate through the cornor.
Another trick is to up sift into red on approaching a corner. This will use the natural drag of the trans to slow you down as you attack it in the same way you would in a LFB move. WARNING: Use this move carfully as it can damage the transmission.
LMAO...I don't think you understand any of those terms in the slightest.
Do what this guy says if you want to end up going ass backwards through a turn
actully i recently had the hounor of talking to a pro driving instructor and i asked him about this he said that the problum with left foot braking is that most people have a tendency to use too much throttle and make the understeer worse, but he said that you should actully let off the throttle use less steer input and once you regain traction the trick is to accelerate smoothly. so i guess the real answer to my question is practice.
Evan Griggs wrote:so i guess the real answer to my question is practice.
Yup, there's no substitute for seat time
if you practice heel n toe downshifting / braking everywhere you go, all everyday, i found that it took me about 4 months for it to become habit, I don't even think about it anymore
Joshua Huber wrote:if you practice heel n toe downshifting / braking everywhere you go, all everyday, i found that it took me about 4 months for it to become habit, I don't even think about it anymore
ya but i have big feet so its a b@#$% to try to heel toe
It may seem ridiculous, but getting wheels one inch diameter bigger in front helps out too.
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