Hello,
Got a good pile of parts building up here so I decided to toss up a mini build thread since everyone loves pictures.
My original plan was to build the whole motor, 12:1 pistons, Comp Stage III cams, P&P head, the works.
I have since decided that I didn't want to put that kind of money into the car, as it will probably be my last year with it before moving on to another platform.
Anyways, the new plans include:
Comp Cams Stage II N/A Grind Cams
Supertech 78lbs Valvespings/Retainers
LZM Balance Shaft Delete
Some other various parts
Anyways here are some pics:
LZM Balance Shaft Delete Kit
Comp Cams
Supertech Valve Springs
New Intake for this year
My Early B-Day Present to myself (Simpson Bandit)
J-Body.org love....
I have the Smoked Visor for the helmet in the mail from Summit, as well as, a QTP Electric Cutout and various exhaust bits.
Hopefully all the parts will be installed next weekend to make a Local Dyno Day at the end of the month. Not really sure what it will make for power but something in the 160's would be nice.
It should run a high 13 pass this year (hence the helmet), I would be very surprised if it didn't. (Flame away)
Thats all for now, I'll post some progress pics or pics of new parts when they arrive.
Looks good! Now get to work. Love the helmet! Best of luck for 13's
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Nice man, wow I love that valve spring kit. Got damn Eco's and their support
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WHITECAVY(the bash falln one) wrote:Nice man, wow I love that valve spring kit. Got damn Eco's and their support
Dave your just mad cause he'll be less than a second away from your time in a n/a stock bottom end eco...wait, I pretty much just dissed my car too lol.
Always liked this car, Ill be watching for progress.
why stage 2 vs stage 3? they cost the same...
you already upgraded the springs... I don't get it.
PJ - Mainly for drive ability purposes, I wanted something that would be a bit nicer on the street. Had I built the whole motor I could compromise reduction in drive ability for the added power. However, when I ran both cams in Desktop Dyno with the specs for a stock Eco, the power increase was minimal. The heads do not flow enough and the Stage 3's bleed off to much compression I'm assuming.
The closest race track to me is 5.5 hours away and I drive my car there and back. The smaller cams seemed to make the most sense given the circumstances, hopefully its not a choice I end up regretting.
Thanks for the comments guys, I'll make sure to post progress as much as possible.
awesome.
go get 13's man!
All I want... is a little of the good life
i would expect more then 160... do you have the le5 intake manifold?
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I like! So not to turn this into a valvetrain discussion, but the recommended max lift on the specs in your pic there is 13.9mm which is over 0.500" !! Is that right?
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Qwibby - Yes I have the LE5 manifold, all my current mods are listed in my reg. It will probably make more than 160 your right, my buddy has a similar set-up to me, but with Stage 1 cams and no balance shaft delete, his tunner said 170whp for his car would be conservative. He is also coming to the dyno day, so even if my car isn't ready, his should be a good indication of what mine will make.
oldskool - Yes, I noticed that as well, which is exaclty why I posted that picture for everyone. It works out directly to 0.547" recomended lift. I'm not sure if Supertech has allways had this information on the box, of if this is new information, but it is very interesting for sure. I'm sure they will be fine for my set-up, so I'm not really worried about the previous issues that came up regarding this springs.
However, there spring coil bind value works out to 0.815" which would seem very high. So why would they rate the recommened max lift so low, I'm not entirely sure. Thats a 0.268" buffer between coil bind and max lift, most places recommend 0.060" to the highest I've seen of 0.100".
Thanks for the comments guys!
Dayum! Not that there is a 0.547" lift cam out there for us, but wouldn't that require some wicked vavle reliefs on the pistons?
In any case, like you said, for what you are doing, they will work. Especailly better than stock
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If you don't get to the dyno, you could take you hpt, get a log of a nice pull and note the max injector duty cycle then reverse calculate the HP from rc engineerings website. It will only be an extimate of peak HP of course, but it's something.
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I might just have to try that....thanks!
I was gonna say with those mods, and some good tuning I'd expect 170+ but who knows.
I know I am def in the neighborhood of 160 I just need to get to a dyno. My car is weird quick people drive it and are like.... wtf is goin on?
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Ya from what I've seen, with the LE5 manifold and full bolt on's they will dyno around high 150's, with the lightweight flywheel and what not I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 160.
Looks like I'm installing this weekend, hopefully all goes well and makes it to Dyno Day on the 25th !!
Also, put in an order from Summit Racing yesterday, should arrive on Friday.
Will post pics of both.
very interested in dyno number. so can you run the stock water pump with the balance shaft delete kit? This is my deciding factor in going neutral or delete. Not to jack the thread, but my zzp springs/retainers FINALLY shipped today. over one month wait. if you're in a hurry, do as newt did and go supertech or gmpp/ferrea
Oldskool - Yes it still keeps the factory water pump, if you search, 'Skunk' posted a nice how-to on here about the LZM balance shaft delete with pictures.
As a word of caution, my buddy that was running the ZZP springs/retainers in his car with the Comp Stage 1 N/A Cam actually had one of the springs snap on him yesterday. He was slowing down to a stop light, about 1500rpm and it let go.
When we installed them there was tones of room left between the spring coils, so I'm not really sure what the issue is here. I believe he is contacting ZZP about the matter, maybe it was just a bad spring.
newt wrote:Oldskool - Yes it still keeps the factory water pump, if you search, 'Skunk' posted a nice how-to on here about the LZM balance shaft delete with pictures.
As a word of caution, my buddy that was running the ZZP springs/retainers in his car with the Comp Stage 1 N/A Cam actually had one of the springs snap on him yesterday. He was slowing down to a stop light, about 1500rpm and it let go.
When we installed them there was tones of room left between the spring coils, so I'm not really sure what the issue is here. I believe he is contacting ZZP about the matter, maybe it was just a bad spring.
gawddammit!! they just shipped them today. what kind of revs did he run? They claim 0.475" coil bind with their retainers. Oh well, at least i'm only running 7-7.5k rpm on comp blower grind...
He was running them to 7000rpm.
Hopefully you have better luck, like I said I'm not sure if this was just a fluke or not.
Could you PM me his contact info? Is he on the org? I would like to get in touch with him to see what zzp will do about this - obviously comp stage 1 @ 7k rpm is not "abuse" on these springs...
Well got the majority of the work done this weekend.
Still needs more tuning but it runs pretty good as it is. Didn't know how much fuel to add so I added lots to be safe. Runs around 11:1ish AFR right now under WOT.
That being said, it still pulls like a banshee from 4500-7000rpm. Major Difference, I'm very excited to see what this will run at the track, I think a 13.xx will be very easy.
Pictures!
Almost ready to Pull
AC Uninstall
Pile of Parts
Motor pulled
Making Progress
Balance Shaft Delete Installed and timing set put back together
Stock Balance Shafts
Stock vs. Supertech
All Finished
Motor going back in
Mostly Put back together
Idling...
nice man.... interested to see your new times
RIP JESSE GERARD.....Youll always be in my thoughts and prayers...
