ok guys got a question i have been to 3 car shows and got nothing for it granted they were all crappy local shows. my question is what do you think of my vert ?? what else should i do to it to make it stand out??? besides lowering it. im also shooting to keeping it clean and semi stock appearing not pictured are my blacked out 00-02 tails i did also pick up a 00-02 ls sport spoiler if that helps.
That is a CLEAN car. I love it just like that.
maybe if you removed the emblems and side moldings.
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whats done to it besides a hood and wheels?
i hate it when people to go to car shows and expect to get something
Since your hood is closed, not sure if the engine is dirty, clean, stanky etc lol.. Start there with the engine, make it look pretty.. Lower the car.. Do some interior work to make the car stand out. Get creative.
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thanx guys i brought the white under the hood as well my aem intake is color mached my rad bezel is color matched pritty clean under there i usually prop the hood up with an extra spring i have lyin around. interior is pritty well stock don't know what to do with the interior i swapped the carpet to a charcoal grey one, got the white leather seats i don't knw weateher to keep them or go with racing seats. it needs a drop i know. Honestly i got beat out at the last car show by a cavy that was spray bombed and had stick on hood scoops. so that really pushed my button more than anything. Im going to remove the side moldings either today for the show tomorrow or over the winter also over the winter im putting on a color matched 2.3 ho intake mani gonan black out the block and cam towers to make the white stand out under the hood. any other tips i have gotten most of my tips off on here and am looking forward to your guys creative ideas on how to make it better. thank you for the comments guys
well first off of realize your not going to win at every show. second realize that every show is different. judges are going to be different from show to show and all have different taste. lastly, doing simple things like painting the bezel and niteshading your tails isnt really going to make your car stand out. do something original that you dont see on alot of show cars
Ghostz ...... wrote:ok guys got a question i have been to 3 car shows and got nothing for it granted they were all crappy local shows. my question is what do you think of my vert ?? what else should i do to it to make it stand out??? besides lowering it. im also shooting to keeping it clean and semi stock appearing not pictured are my blacked out 00-02 tails i did also pick up a 00-02 ls sport spoiler if that helps.
Drop and correct tire size would be a big help. Get a set of the projector headlights for it. Subtle things can make or break a car in a show. It doesn't just go around the exterior. Engine bay, interior it all goes hand and hand.
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Moar Candy! LAWL wrote:well first off of realize your not going to win at every show. second realize that every show is different. judges are going to be different from show to show and all have different taste. lastly, doing simple things like painting the bezel and niteshading your tails isnt really going to make your car stand out. do something original that you dont see on alot of show cars
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I know in my area, showing a new "fixed up" car as we all drive is pointless. I dont know about your area, but if you dont have a 69 camaro, or something before 1980 your gonna lose. IMO showing is pointless unless its a nopi, cruisefest, something of that sort.
car looks clean, i like it. A good drop would def. be a good start, and like david said, get creative..judges love creativity!
wich brings me back to my original question what do you think i should do give me some examples like i stated before i got most of my ideas from the org. and it dosent help all my locals shows are all mucel head freaks that don't give a crap about sport compacts or imports. if there is sumthign with a v8 in it they will vote for that rather than somethign with a 4 cyl. i know i don't have much done to it moar but it's the simple things that make it stand out all im asking for is opinions on what i should do next man plz don't be a jacka$$ i know i won't place at every show and i know every show is diffrent im just asking for opinions thats all don't critisize me for looking for help from the guys i got most of my ideas from.
im not trying to be a dick but im trying to tell you how car shows are. dont wanna hear it? i dont know what to tell you. im not going to tell you how to mod your car. its your car you can do as you please. ill im saying is you need to do something different. nothing on your car is original. yes its very clean but try and carry a clean theme through out your car. do more with the interior (dash, bezel, seats, door panels). carry the theme to the trunk with a nice setup. pick 2 colors you want to use that will go good with the exterior white. drop the car, do smaller things like mentioned to the engine bay. get a header back exhaust.
show cars cost alot of money. if you arent willing to sink some money into your car except for 5 dollar here and there on some spray paint, its going to be hard to win at shows. as much as me and zyaaaa argue back and forth, he has a very clean well rounded show/performance car. granted hes missing some of the mobile and interior that show cars have but his engine bay and exterior is pretty on point.
01 cavy those rims wil lbe coming off and they are the correct size i sat down with my at the time boss and figured out which size tire i would need to get it as close to stock on the speedo as possible. i have a set of blacked out 95-99 z rims to throw on it. im tired of the bumpy ride. if you could give me some pointers. liek i said i plan to strip the side moldings today. drop will come over the winter as soon as i sell my coupe. im doing little things at a time tryin to get all the little things done and out of the way to make room for the bigger projects on this i did plan to get some 1 pc halo projectors but im seeing them on every 95-99 cavy around now, im gonan go 00-02 headlights. i would love to trade my ss hood off for a cf one seeing how i had a set of cf fenders sitting outback on my coupe. im jsut starting to fiberglass. and im starting with the interior over the winter i plan to glass every panel though im not going overboard like seamless z did. moar sorry your messsage jsut came off diffrently at me and i know you mean no harm.
If they're 16" wheels they either need to have a 205-55-16, 17" would be either a 215-45-17 or 225-45-17, and 18" would be a 225-40-18.
Glassing would be cool for doing a audio setup of some sort in your car. The 00-02 headlight conversion is okay but if you stay 95-99 you have alot more options for headlights unless you wanna custom retrofit. The carbon fiber would be cool for shows but then on the same hand carbon fiber is starting to get played out like lambo doors. Mainly for a real show car, to get attention i've noticed alot of ugly cluttered cars that have too much crap going on is what seems to win shows.
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*** this is the way i personally feel about car shows, if you dont like what i have to say, fine. but having this train of thought has gained me a lot of respect at the local shows as well as awards won***
do some of you guys just show up at a car show thinking 'welp i got my new exhaust and clear tails on so im going to win."? you first need to ask yourself one question... did i spend the last week cleaning the hell out of it? because if the answer is no and you didn't clean it or don't intend on it being perfectly clean then you shouldn't even bother wasting your money on the entry fee.
car show judges shouldn't be worried ALL about how the car is modded, if they are they aren't doing it right. it's cleanliness, attention to detail, organization and then appeal needs to be taken into consideration. if they are a good judge they wont be saying 'well.. this is a cavalier, a cavalier does not belong at a car show so im going to dock it points right there, and well... it has rims but they dont look good so im going to dock it again." no... this is not what a good judge does. a good judge looks at every detail and aspect of the car, is the paint clean and freshly waxed or spray detailed? is the carpet clean? does the engine look like a gem or a turd? then they need to look at the mods and say "did this person take the time to install this part and do it the right way or did they just use some duct tape and zip ties to make it work to have a mod done for a car show?"
granted, the mods you do have to accent the car and not make it look cheesy or out of place as well. but the judges should not be like "i dont like the things this kid did, im not voting for it".
at least thats the way I MYSELF feel about it, ive won quite a few awards against some tough odds with a car that has a 10 year old paint job and shows its age for sure.
personally, if i were a judge and a geo metro rolled up with a decent amount of mods that stood for a decent style and the car was immaculately clean and then a corvette showed up, completely stock that was just driven in and parked with absolutely zero time in cleaning. the geo wins hands down. cleanliness is next to godliness IMO.
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^^^^ i agrre they see how much care is taken of it. if it's not taken care of it's probably half assed somewhere
z yaaaa wrote:*** this is the way i personally feel about car shows, if you dont like what i have to say, fine. but having this train of thought has gained me a lot of respect at the local shows as well as awards won***
do some of you guys just show up at a car show thinking 'welp i got my new exhaust and clear tails on so im going to win."? you first need to ask yourself one question... did i spend the last week cleaning the hell out of it? because if the answer is no and you didn't clean it or don't intend on it being perfectly clean then you shouldn't even bother wasting your money on the entry fee.
car show judges shouldn't be worried ALL about how the car is modded, if they are they aren't doing it right. it's cleanliness, attention to detail, organization and then appeal needs to be taken into consideration. if they are a good judge they wont be saying 'well.. this is a cavalier, a cavalier does not belong at a car show so im going to dock it points right there, and well... it has rims but they dont look good so im going to dock it again." no... this is not what a good judge does. a good judge looks at every detail and aspect of the car, is the paint clean and freshly waxed or spray detailed? is the carpet clean? does the engine look like a gem or a turd? then they need to look at the mods and say "did this person take the time to install this part and do it the right way or did they just use some duct tape and zip ties to make it work to have a mod done for a car show?"
granted, the mods you do have to accent the car and not make it look cheesy or out of place as well. but the judges should not be like "i dont like the things this kid did, im not voting for it".
at least thats the way I MYSELF feel about it, ive won quite a few awards against some tough odds with a car that has a 10 year old paint job and shows its age for sure.
personally, if i were a judge and a geo metro rolled up with a decent amount of mods that stood for a decent style and the car was immaculately clean and then a corvette showed up, completely stock that was just driven in and parked with absolutely zero time in cleaning. the geo wins hands down. cleanliness is next to godliness IMO.
i can somewhat agree with that, and im sure that we live in completely different areas, where the judges are different, the cars are different, and everything is different, but when i clean my cavalier to a tee, and im sitting beside a 70,000 restored oldie, i dont deserve to win even if my car is cleaner, and around here, im not going to win. Ive won a few awards at local shows, but the majority does not go to cars like we have, no matter how clean they are, because the judges around here go by what type of car it is, not the cleanliness. I agree with you there it should be on time spent on cleaning, etc. but unforunely it usually isnt.
sorry for getting off topic here.
^^ yep, i agree. BUT... if it's a well rounded show you shouldn't be showing against stuff like that. if the promoters of the show are on they're game and doing things they way they should be there will be classes. that way everybody actually has a shot at a trophy rather than just the ones who can shell out the big bucks for rare, fully restored or completely customized out cars.
i also agree that in different areas it's different with the show scene. some areas do things a lot differently then others.
around here the people like to see sport compact stuff because well... most of the owners are too afraid that nobody will want their cars there so they do not come. if you haven't gotten to the see the eyes of a little kid light up with enthusiasm because your newer car is there then your missing out, one of the best attributes of showing for me right there.
its my opinion personally that well... the old boys have had many many years to show off, its time the younger generation gets a shot at it.
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yes, i totally agree w/that...
i go to the shows to either help support the cause or event or hang out with friends. if i win, great. if not, it wasn't meant to be. most of time you get goodie bags so it kinda offsets the cost.
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z yaaaa wrote:*** this is the way i personally feel about car shows, if you dont like what i have to say, fine. but having this train of thought has gained me a lot of respect at the local shows as well as awards won***
do some of you guys just show up at a car show thinking 'welp i got my new exhaust and clear tails on so im going to win."? you first need to ask yourself one question... did i spend the last week cleaning the hell out of it? because if the answer is no and you didn't clean it or don't intend on it being perfectly clean then you shouldn't even bother wasting your money on the entry fee.
car show judges shouldn't be worried ALL about how the car is modded, if they are they aren't doing it right. it's cleanliness, attention to detail, organization and then appeal needs to be taken into consideration. if they are a good judge they wont be saying 'well.. this is a cavalier, a cavalier does not belong at a car show so im going to dock it points right there, and well... it has rims but they dont look good so im going to dock it again." no... this is not what a good judge does. a good judge looks at every detail and aspect of the car, is the paint clean and freshly waxed or spray detailed? is the carpet clean? does the engine look like a gem or a turd? then they need to look at the mods and say "did this person take the time to install this part and do it the right way or did they just use some duct tape and zip ties to make it work to have a mod done for a car show?"
granted, the mods you do have to accent the car and not make it look cheesy or out of place as well. but the judges should not be like "i dont like the things this kid did, im not voting for it".
at least thats the way I MYSELF feel about it, ive won quite a few awards against some tough odds with a car that has a 10 year old paint job and shows its age for sure.
personally, if i were a judge and a geo metro rolled up with a decent amount of mods that stood for a decent style and the car was immaculately clean and then a corvette showed up, completely stock that was just driven in and parked with absolutely zero time in cleaning. the geo wins hands down. cleanliness is next to godliness IMO.
QFT!! he's totally right, I've been to my share of car shows and local meets, and if I've learned anything, its cleanliness and attention to details. One show I went to had a bunch of old muscle cars, a Herbie replica, a tuned 350Z, a Chevelle and a Monte Carlo doning sets of 24s, but the car that caught my eye (and the judges eyes) was an immaculate 65 Mustang coupe. it wasn't decked out, but is was CLEAN! every inch and detail of the car shined, and at the end of the day, he went home a winner.
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nothing says tasteful like that stupid vinyl on your hood... sure to win the judges over if they are 16 yr old kids... ::shakes head in shame::
youve got a vert (with the white interior, no less) so youve got a nice start on making it look good. my opinion: keep it simple and keep it clean. these are all the immediate thoughts i had when seeing your car. get more detailed pics, and im sure you will get more detailed opinions.
lower the car.
shave the side moldings.
if your top is black, paint around the windshield black to match. if its white, leave it as is.
if youre on 16" rims, think of upgrading to 17s or 18s.
clean the @!#$ out of the car
look into the flares i have on my car -- i think they look great on the verts
if you dont have them already, get the side pieces for the vert boot
a toyo trunk liner would be nice
toyo tails are also a plus
if you want to do an 00-02 HL convo, do it. mod your z bumper to fit (like alias did for his IF front)
get the front plate cover for the bumper. put it on just at shows
get the billet insert for the hood
looks like the z bumper needs clear bumper lights and fogs as well. mesh in the fog light area would be nice too
if those are the stock vert sides and rear, upgrade to the rest of the 95-99 z kit
lose the shocker sticker on the hood. seriously.
but please listen to MOAR and the rest: you cant go to a show and expect to win......especially when you are about 2 mods away from being bone stock.
and please, for the love of all that is holy, hit ENTER every once in awhile. one huge blob of text is hard as hell to decipher.
lol allright i see what your sayin tabs and z yaa i know the shocker isn't the best thing but i liek it on there i do have the billet grill on the hood polished up really shiney lol.
im on 17's american racing coil 228's with 215/40/17 tires. im trying to decipher weather i would liek to go clear or go JDM o nthe signals toyo's are too played out id liek to do what i seen someone on here do make the stock 00-02 taisl into toyos with out the amber marker.
i do not have the side panels for the vert boot the top iswhite im thinkig of changing it to black over the winter.
I plan to lower the car, go back to the stock black z rims with 205/55/16 tires.
im hoping to put side markers in my cf fenders and compleatly paint over them.
the trunk liner is a great idea now do i absolutly have to buy one online or is there anyway to make one from scratch im shure it can't be that hard id just need trunk liner material some glue or adhesive and time.
i have been looking for the front plate cover but no one has one and if they have one they won't give it up.
it has the FULL z kit. if i do go with a body kit im thinking a trd front 03 ls sport rear and either TRDor type j sides what do you think about that combo???
i know i don't have many mods into it but when i go to a show and i have spent my week cleaning and going through the car with a fine tooth comb
it hurts at the end heck just liek i get on here i get compliments all the time driving down the street. but when i take it to a show nothing granted thier all muscel heads and could care less about a 4 cyl or anything that isn't a mustang or camaro. i'll keep plugin away. hopefulyl the hard work will pay off in due time. any more suggestiosn on what to do to keep it clean and make it a show winner???
i usually go to car shows to show off my car and see other cars
and half the time its a charity show
so i could care less if i win anything, i dont do shows to win, i do them to see what is out there and have a good relaxing sunday or saturday
