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Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:11 PM
Well, felt like I was happy with it, and then more problems arose in the paint...

After wet sanding the clear coat with 100, 400, 600, 800 and 1000 grit sandpaper, and buffing with Meguire's Proffesional Diamond Cut and Step 1 Polish, these scratches begin to appear 24 hours later:





Went through to primer with the Diamond Cut polish :o

I knew about this the day after paint, but it still upsets me...its like the paint was just a layer sitting on top of the primer.

The primer was smooth as silk under the paint.

Some are saying that I should not have used 100 grit? Or started 3 days after the paint went on, both of which were suggestions from the guys at the paint shop we bought the supplies from...




Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:23 PM
ho sh!t that sucks some balls there dave, it was lookin so good too,sounds like my story with my headliner



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:30 PM
Yeah, I'll tell ya right now, Im so sick of this car. I just want it gone. Hell, I may not even want a J as a next car. If I did get one, it'd have to be a Sunfire...



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:34 PM
WTF, correct me if i'm wrong but 100 and 400 grit papers are way too abrasive for wetsanding clear coat to bring out the shine. I whould have started with 1000 and then went to 1400 or finer but i'm no body man so don't quote me....


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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:35 PM
Yeah, Im thinkin the guys at the paint store were total dumbasses...wonder if there is a way to get them to refund for the supplies, at least, the clear coat, so I can try again...



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:36 PM
holy @!#$...you used 100 grit on clearcoat?? I went to school for autobody and you should have started with and 800 and worked your way up.


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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:36 PM
ack





Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:38 PM
Ouch! Yea you should have started with at the least an 800 open coat wet paper but only if you had bad orange peel if not start with 1200. Dont wana hurt your feelsing but you will most likey have to re clear the whole car






Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:38 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:WTF, correct me if i'm wrong but 100 and 400 grit papers are way too abrasive for wetsanding clear coat to bring out the shine. I whould have started with 1000 and then went to 1400 or finer but i'm no body man so don't quote me....


i wouldnt even wet sand a nice paint job with 1000 grit. Start with 1500 minimum and work up to 2500. Then compound with some diamond cut 2.0 and polish.







Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:40 PM
OneBadZ24 wrote:
Skilz10179 wrote:WTF, correct me if i'm wrong but 100 and 400 grit papers are way too abrasive for wetsanding clear coat to bring out the shine. I whould have started with 1000 and then went to 1400 or finer but i'm no body man so don't quote me....


i wouldnt even wet sand a nice paint job with 1000 grit. Start with 1500 minimum and work up to 2500. Then compound with some diamond cut 2.0 and polish.


I said not to quote me damnit! LOL.


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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:47 PM
My bad, we started with 400...my dad said he got some clear coat today, and he wants to play around...he says starting with 400 was a good idea, becuase he F'ed up the last layer of clear coat...




But still, ive practically given up on the car..i was gonna hold it for a buddy who wants to buy it, but he makes like nothing, so he wanted me to hold it for like a year so he could afford it...hell, i might just trade it in after i replace a few missing parts




Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:47 PM
HOLY SHIESTA!!!!! You wet sanded FRESH paint with 100? The only way Id ever do that is if I was planning on REMOVING IT. Holy crap!




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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 1:50 PM
Error on my part...we wet sanded fresh paint with 400...



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:29 PM
thats what happens when its done in a garage man... take it to a shop lol



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:37 PM
Yeah, like I can afford to have it done at a shop. I have no job, Im going to college, and just today they told me they suspended my financial aid



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:59 PM
Wow that sucks, I guess you learned the hard way, but you're still young, and hopefully this doesn't stop you from doing your own work. I guess just getting a lot more info would be a better way next time.








Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:02 PM
I love doing my own work...just never gonna paint a car larger than 1/32nd scale again



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:08 PM
wow, sorry to see that all happen.

When i had my cav painted i brought it to a shop to get it done but they gave me a few pointers along the way just for my knowledge...maybe they can help you out

Starting off with the initial sanding....the shop sanded down to bare metal. Then primered. Then LET THAT SIT for a few days........they said the primer will actually shrink to the body of the car...and if you were to paint on the primer immediatly it would all start crackin or something along those lines......

Then after they let the car sit....gave the primer a once over.......Painted.....then wet-sanded.....then painted.....then wet-sanded....and so on for a few layers.

Then let that sit...then cleared....wet-sanded....for i think 3 layers.....

Finally i think the step your on....we started off with a 1200 grit sand paper and wetsanded the car making sure the car stayed totally wet and stayed away from teh edges.

I one of the picture i think you wet-sanded too close to the edge and it started peelin....



My suggest would be to take off all the clear......wet sand the paint and get rid of all those runs......clear...and start off with atleast 1200...and see how that goes


The body shop i had my car at taught me all i know and my car turned out flawless so hopefully those pointers will get you in the right direction
Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 4:11 PM
All the runs are gone. The runs were in the last layer of clear coat itself. Thanks for the tips, though.



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:00 PM
for the run take a razor put tape on both ends to avoid diggin in
shave perpendicular to the car

then sand 1000, 1500, 2000

you dont avoid the edges just dont sand as much and be very careful

did you wet sand the primer at all before you sprayed the base?
if not strip it with a razor blade since paint is still fresh it will scrape off real easy, da it down then start over.

I wouldn't attempt color sanding unless you know what your doing or have someone with you that does.
Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Friday, August 12, 2005 1:45 AM
I start with nothing more course than 1200 grit for wet sanding clear coat. You can only take off so much before you are in paint again.



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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Friday, August 12, 2005 3:01 AM
to wet sand runs u start with 1500 and work to 2k. Same if u wanna buff the whole car. 400 is a huge mistake. Looks like u got a lot of dirt in the paint 2. All those scratches are prob from ur sanding and the lack of preparing the surface to buff that sucks man


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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Friday, August 12, 2005 4:25 AM
yea that sucks



Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Friday, August 12, 2005 5:44 AM
i've still never wetsanded my z (course you can tell also) and course i`ll be repainting my car here sometime



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Re: Nuthin ever goes right for me :(
Friday, August 12, 2005 6:10 AM
Should have started with NO ROUGHER than 1200.... I recommend 1500 minimum to wet sand your final clear... and sitting for a day or two before wetsanding and buffing. The scratches are probably from using too rough a sandpaper to wetsand your clear coat with.




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