I have a question on fiberglassing the headliner, given the type of material could I not just resin it up as is, without cloth?
Me and my brother (Z2FST4U) fiberglassed his headliner. I just applied the resin to the liner as your mentioned and let it dry. Two things we encountered were that it was really lump and prickley so it tore right thought the sand paper when trying to sand it down and secondly that the headliner warped some and didnt fit perfectly right. So if you plan on doing this I would consider applying the resin and waiting for it to become cured to the point that it wont drip or run and then install it and let it cure fully so it keep the correct shape.
Also, the headliner will absord a TON of fiberglass, one way to prevent that would be to apply a very thin layer of rezin at first and let it try which would keep the additional coats of rezin from soaking in as much.
Hopefully this helps, here are some pics of it body-filled and being painted then installed.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
that seems like it would be hard to get in the car cause you have to bend it alittle bit.. but looks really nice i must admit
^Yeah, I forgot to mention that. We had to lean one seat all the way back, and remove the other one (on the side that it was coming in from, doesnt really matter which way) and put it in at an angle. Hard part is not flexing it and cracking the fiberglass or bondo, shouldnt have to worry about the paint if it is semi-fresh.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
No cloth, and the gun was cleaned, for some reason he just doesnt clean the outside well, haha. But I got it painted for cost of paint and he does an amazing job. Its good to know ppl.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
if your not using cloth you do have to be very very careful about any flexing of the headliner whatesoever, fiberglass without any cloth or mat is extremly weak, fiberglass gets its strength from the material, not from the resin itself. i would also as suggestion slide the headliner back in the car while it dries i'd prolaby even throw a couple screws in it, and let it fully cure 24-48 hours. because fiberglass will shrink when it dries and if its just laying out on your driveway drying its going to curl in and when u put it back in the car you will have bad sagging. cheaper fiberglass will shrink more then a quality fiberglass.
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what if i do use the cloth, will it shrink too?
or i'll be alright fibergalsing it and let it dry in the garage for couple of days without putting it back on?
Ours didnt shrink at all, but like I mentioned before, when the fiberglass is no long dripping / tacky, install the headliner and let it cure so it doesnt sag.
The final product was SOLID because we applied so much resin that it soacked through the fiber backing on the headliner (the part that gives it shape). We couldnt even flex it to get it into the car.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
***when the fiberglass is no
longer dripping / tacky***
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
ZeeTwankyFo wrote:Ours didnt shrink at all, but like I mentioned before, when the fiberglass is no long dripping / tacky, install the headliner and let it cure so it doesnt sag.
The final product was SOLID because we applied so much resin that it soacked through the fiber backing on the headliner (the part that gives it shape). We couldnt even flex it to get it into the car.
shrinking, warping, same thing really.
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do you have any more pics of that red car's interior?
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I never thought of the noise factor, how exactly is the interior noise levels after glassin???
Its all about the pain...The Jewelry and Ink are just souvinirs
I dont notice any differences in his car to be honest, If anything the radio sounds louder as none of the sounds are absorbed. Might also keep out exterior noise a little better aswell, but not extremely noticable.
-Nate (ZeeTwankyFo)
Hey! Thats my car! lol. Yup, its pretty cool, not gunna lie! no jk.
Sound isnt much different than stock to be honest. Ohh and I was kind of thinking about it and installing if when half dry/ wet wouldnt be a very good idea considering the only thing that would do is let the center sag even more and then dry that way. You dont want any of that! It will be much heavier once glassed though so what I did to support the extra weight is drilled 2 screws up through the dome light area into the metal sunroof support. Dont use too long of screws or your car may have HORNS on the roof!
a new pic, I have the Tenzo R steering wheel now.....
God would ask to borrow your car if his was in the shop.
i work in an upholstry shop and we did a 68' firbird and we bought a fiberglass headliner for it.the company that we got it from said they had one for my cavalier.when i get to the shop wed. i'll find out who makes those.
Anyone ever consider getting a well fitting Fiberglass headliner molded and made in ABS so its easier to install and paintable, yet more durable and flexible then Fiberglass?
If anyone hade a large Vaccuum forming device it could be done.
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White Raven (Ryan L.) wrote:Anyone ever consider getting a well fitting Fiberglass headliner molded and made in ABS so its easier to install and paintable, yet more durable and flexible then Fiberglass?
If anyone hade a large Vaccuum forming device it could be done.
i love ABS...
if it could be down put me down for a group buy..
gotta make it for my 89 though or no deal
Elias A wrote:White Raven (Ryan L.) wrote:Anyone ever consider getting a well fitting Fiberglass headliner molded and made in ABS so its easier to install and paintable, yet more durable and flexible then Fiberglass?
If anyone hade a large Vaccuum forming device it could be done.
i love ABS...
if it could be down put me down for a group buy..
gotta make it for my 89 though or no deal
i wouldnt hold your breath on that one. most people aren't making new parts for the third gens, you guys get even less goods.
as long as you fiberglassed it right, install isnt a problem. nor is durability if its painted properly. what your asking could work but doubt youlle find any company willing to do it unless you got money in hand to cover all their startup costs.
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