K here is the situation. I have a 97 cavi manual tranny and i have a 98 sunfire manual tranny instrument cluster. I bought the cluster from ebay. I tried to get the guy to send me the wiring harness from the back of the cluster with no luck. So now I go to a junkyard and i found a wiring harness that will fit from a 96 sunfire but it was automatic. Will this wiring harness work. Will all the wires match in my manual cavalier? And am i going in the right direction? From what i understand i have to completely rewire my cavalier for the sunfire cluster which is what i got from doing a search but seems no problem but sounds time comsuming whew
yea the harness will fit
and as long as the new cluster doesnt have the PRND21 on the cluster you should be fine, just find the diagrams and watch up the wires
doesnt matter
i didnt have a tach in my 00 cavy 5spd, and got an ebay cluster from an atuo w/ tach and the harness in my car worked
Heck yeah. Thanks guys. I can't wait to get it in. And yes the cluster i have now does not have a tach and the 98 sunfire cluster does and the one i took the harness from also had a tach but it was an auto and my cluster is for a manual. thanks again
dang i keep reading that it won't fit and by the looks of it ........it won't. oh well i guess i will be selling a sunfire instrument panel soon........lol
Spent about 3 hours today and finally got my 98 sunfire gauges in my 97 cavi and it looks freaking awsome. But here is what i had to do.
Had to cut off both posts on the bottom of the sunfire cluster because of different location of cavi post.
Cut off the tab on the left side that is the factory mount in the sunfire cluster.
Made some custom mounts to hold it in.
Cut and splice every wire to the wiring harness from the sunfire cluster.
Cut the bezel trim so it would fit flush with the sunfire cluster do to the differnet shape.
And still because of its shape i have probably 1\8 inch gap on both sides but i will fab something up to fill in the difference. But all in all it was all worth it. Now i have a tach and a cooler looking gauges and they light up red at night to match my red cavi.
oh yeah there is hope for the 95-99 guys........word up
Argh, I wish I had seen this earlier today, before I had the thought that I was going to swap in the sunfire cluster into the cavy today. That plug is a a deal killer. I figured all the hacking I was going to have to do to make it work ( I think), and I
thought I had the plug thing licked, too... until I figured out that there are 12 sets of pins on the cavy plug, and only 11 on the sunfire gauge cluster. The plug itself is a bit different, too, but a file took care of part of the problem, and the plug could be hacked down to fit.... but I've got two extra pins, and no diagram.
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=45&i=90666&t=90666#90666
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=45&i=69465&t=69465#69465
Somebody (John Lenko) posted a pinout for the sunfire:
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=4&i=138095&t=138029
Anyone have the pinout for the cavy gauge cluster? Haynes have it in the book? Or another readily available [inexpensive] source? I have no book for the car, and this is the first of many changes I already have parts for. I've got my dash apart for a stereo swap, and wanted to do the cluster at the same time.
TIA
Got it thanks.
Looks as though the pinouts are completely different, which is too bad- coulda just hacked off the two unused pin holders on the cavy plug. Bummer. I didn't even look to see how difficult it will be to pop the pins out- had to put the dash back together for the time being.
The other catch seems to be the bezel trim. The sunfire stuff is definitely different... would an 00+ bezel work? Could someone answer that? Otherwise, what? Fiberglass a piece up? It's tempting to just get the cavy cluster w/ tach, and buy the pieces again (white face panel, black bezel)...
It's just the piece going across the lower portion of the cluster, above the steering column, that was mentioned above.
Not worried about the plug- either I can pop the pins out or I can't. Done it many times before, but sometimes the plug or pins aren't amenable to that sort of thing, or it takes a special tool. The spacing on the plug looks right, just two extra pin receptacles that would have to be shaved off. And believe it or not, it'd be faster and easier to pop those wires out of the original plug than it would be for me to go find a junk yard with the plug. Might even be easier for me to find a new plug and the pins online, than to go find a junker.
Thanks.
hey guys my stock cluster is for a manual w/o a tach and has a digital odometer can i use on with a mechanical?
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