Your supposed to use the fiberglass to mold it all in and then use the filler (bondo) to fill in all of the low spots. I dont see your method holding up too long, especially not on a door panel, since it gets so much use.
im doing the same thing but i used dura-glass to mold in all of the lines where you used the bondo...then i am going over all of the door panel on fiberglass then using bondo as a finishing product to get out any imperfections
heres a picture of the beginning of the door panel as reference to how im doing it
by the way...this is in no way meant to post jack....just to give my opinion on the proper way to do it
i used the bondo first and then i am going to cover it in glass.... if i did it the way CaviRider said then the bondo would have a chance to crack out. But with my way the glass keeps the large amounts of bondo intact. Then after i sand the glass smooth ill use moderate amounts of bondo to fix the slight imperfections.... understand now? Also i do fiberglass work everyday all day....its my job
Matt yours looks good... i am filling those pockets in too
i am going about it a little differnt though. I am using styrofoam and shaping into the pockets. Then ill take a knife and contour it to the shape of the panel. then ill bondo the cracks and lay glass after that. Then ill go behind the door and take the carpeted pieces out by poppin off the plastic welds and the foam out and ill be left with nothing but glass covering the pockets
Also matt where is your locks do you not have power locks...? or are you goin to shave em out....
I wasnt necessarily saying you were doing it wrong, i was just saying that there really is no need to add the filler before fiberglassing. IMO, the less filler on the panel, the better. But everyone has there techniques that work best for themselves.
A little advice that might help you fill the pockets a little faster: use some tape, and tape over the pockets(try to keep the contour of the door panel if possible), and then flip the panel over and remove the carpet pieces. Then apply fiberglass matt and resin from behind. Once that is dry, flip the panel back over, and remove the tape. It should be shaped pretty close to what you need. Then just add a few more layers of FG to strengthen everything. This might save you a little bit of time, by not having to mess with the foam.
i dont have power locks. or power windows
and im doing mine kind of the same as far as the actually fiberglassing goes
i layed bondo-glass to mold everything - stronger than bondo as its fiberglass reinforced filler so it wont crack nearly as easy i found that this is much stronger than just normal bondo
then im fiberglassing over that
then using normal filler to get out the minor imperfections
yeah cavrider i wasnt wanting to undermind your method either, but the tapething is a really damned good idea, even better than the foam. ill take duct tape and stretchit over the holes tight and then just glass over the duct tape maybe or do it the way you said... we'll see how it goes
yeah matt good thinking and good work so far, cant wait to see what they look like finished and hung on the lambos take more pics of your progress and post em up and of course the final product.
BTW updates tomorrow
i have a lil area to glass real quick, but the rest of the panel is is ready to be blocker, because i used the air powered sander on it today. also i am gonna have to work on a glass speaker box, because i just scrounged up some Eclipse 15's with aluminum cones.....
When u guys do this, do u rip off the vinyle parts like the arm rest part. Or just glass over it. Im also going to attempt at this.
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yes...you have to strip off all of the vinyl
i dont know why you have to strip the vinyl. look at my door panel i didnt stip jack. my arm rest, i didnt strip. I just Glass over it and wrap the edges. I havent stripped any of the stuff i have glassed with vinyl on it..... so i guess its up to you. I use different resin that anyone i know of on this site. They all have to use catalyst in their resin, i dont. I use sunrez. No catalyst involved, cept for sunlight. I just soak my glass and then put it outside and its fry within about 1-4 minutes depending on the sun.... Also it can sit around in a bucket as long as the sun wonte penetrate the bucket. Its the best stuff in the world, becuase i dont have to be in any hurry when i use it because it wont dry until i stick it in the sun unlike catalized(sp) resin..
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i was reading another post with you in it Greenfire. the one about the speaker box... the fabric that most use is fleece.... i molden in a speaker box into the side of my trunk, but i ditched it b/c i didnt like it....
Very nice. I am planning on doing the same to my panels but with a little twist. Make sure to keep us updated.
yeah ill keep postin pics...
I would guide coat it before you paint it. With a piece that big and flat, it will be hard to see the waves until after its painted. Also a little trick for feeling low and high spots, put your hand under your shirt or a thin rag and rub you hand across the piece, you'll be able to find imperfections so much easier.
It looks good so far, make sure to post finished pics.
nice guys looking good i hope to be doin this sometime soon also
looks good, better than i can do... not hating,,, but it is very wavy..... block it a little more.. once paint hits it,, you will see it.... just trying to help ya avoid a heartbreak
its not really that wavy to be honest. your eyes are just decieved by the slight diff. in putty mixture colors. But yeah i am gonna guide coat it so im for sure that it isnt wavy
now i have to do the other side and make it look the same.. geeez... ive only been working on the pass. side for a week and a day... and i also have a full time job, so i think i am making good time
looks great actually. i bet that thing weighs a ton though
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do you have to sand the door panels so they are smooth then but the fiber glass or can you just add the glass....... does fiber glass stick to that plastic
Freak of Nature(1loudcavy) wrote:so your doors will look kinda like mine when finished?....removed material off arm rest, filled in the seam and wrapped entire panel in vinyl
yeah sorda. cept i faded every split and line in on mine so it looks like its all one piece even where the fabric meets the handle part. all lines are faded in....
wow, all those projects are looking pretty good, makes me itchy to redo my paint work, does anybody know where i could get a foam skull? or a foamish halloween scary skeleton foam face? i'm wanting to work that into my car in a few spots but i need something to work with and i suck at drawing and shapeing free form stuff.
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Angel Baeza wrote:does fiber glass stick to that plastic
Not especially, it does an alright job but if you really pick at it you can take it off.
And this whole time I thought I was one of the only ones doing this... You guys should've gone the extra mile though and done something else too it while you were glassing it like freak of natures, or it's just going to look pretty much like a stock door
I really roughed up the plastic to help bond the fiberglass better
My 6.5" speakers going in
I was test fitting the pannel and also moving the tweeter around to figure out where I liked it
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And thats about where she sits right now. Havn't had much time to work on it lately but hopefully soon I'll get the chance again. What are you guys going to finish yours with? I'm not a huge fan of vinyl but I'm not sure how paint will hold up to the wear/tear a doorpannel goes through.
did you scratch it and with what
