Well that sucks... We call that a bead leak. I'm thinking that you bought both of these new right? Cause I would take them back to the company that you bought them from. When the person put the tire on he could of damaged the bead of the tire. Big rims with small sidewalls are not the easiest to put on.
from the look of the pic oits the whole inside bead leaking...
dismount the tire take a wire brush and clean the mating surface on the rim and if need be as a last resort some bead sealer to help it seal
Darkstars wrote:from the look of the pic oits the whole inside bead leaking...
dismount the tire take a wire brush and clean the mating surface on the rim and if need be as a last resort some bead sealer to help it seal
I may try that out. The company that did the mounting is closed today so I will have it checked out tomorrow. I can get bead sealer from a regular auto store, correct?
if its all brand new @!#$ take it back.. if the rims are used or whatever then bead sealer should work, but you need to brake the bead to put that stuff on... I don't know where to get bead sealer, parts store might have it.. we never buy it at work its always just there LOL
i agree that whoever put the tire on didnt seat the tire right to the rim and the bead isnt sealed to rim
i dont think you can get bead sealer from your local auto parts store. we always order ours from our supplier at work. if they are indeed new tires and new rims, i would lean towards a damagd bead area, which can also be fixed with bead sealer sometimes.
if the rims are not new there is probably some corrosion around the bead of the rim where it mates with the tire. grind and seal is the only thing you can do then.
1997 RedR - ZedR
take it back... i see this a lot at the place i work... the guys that do the tires get out their grinders and sanding pads all day long to clear off the corrosion that accumulates in some peoples wheels... its not fun, but they should have done that if it was needed... take it back and tell them to fix it. they should do it for free... have them check the sidewalls in the tires if you drove on them a lot also. could be some damage there.
For the record.. the belt inside the tire broke somehow.
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reverse mount rim and they didn't take enough time when mounting the tire, likely stretched the bead and ripped the rubber or something like that, I have seen alot of new people do this, hell, the first tire I mounted I did that too, then again it was something like a 205/50r16, traction t/a, with really stiff sidewalls.
tires and rims best friend is tire paste, and lots of it, I am the main person that mounts the lower profile and harder to mount tires at work because everyone else is afraid to do it,
steve whitehead wrote:reverse mount rim and they didn't take enough time when mounting the tire, likely stretched the bead and ripped the rubber or something like that, I have seen alot of new people do this, hell, the first tire I mounted I did that too, then again it was something like a 205/50r16, traction t/a, with really stiff sidewalls.
tires and rims best friend is tire paste, and lots of it, I am the main person that mounts the lower profile and harder to mount tires at work because everyone else is afraid to do it,
It wasn't the person that mounted the tires fault. I took it to them and they inspected it and told me the belt somehow got broken. It wasn't like that at first until I started going back/forth to work.
I concluded that I hit a crack in the road too hard and it broke the belt inside. On my way to work we recently had a road that had a bad crack in it and made the road unleveled. Kinda like "_-" if you know what I mean. The tire was fine at first until I started hitting it everyday and now they tire needs to be replaced. The city fixed the road now, but damn. $142 tire down the drain. Oh well.. its the first flat I have ever gotten with this car so no biggie.
I'm sorry, but that is such Bull @!#$! I work for a tire place and I know how hard it is to mount a low profile 20 for a car. Almost every time I've seen us mount the really low profile tire that big it takes two people to do it. If you don't know what you are doing, or don't do it that often you well bake the bead of the tire. I think that is what happened is they broke the bead of the tire putting it on. If you where to brake a belt it would be across the tire not like that. I've not seen one that ever happen unless it was installed wrong. I think you got screwed saying you hit something. Cause it wouldn't of done that. It would of messed the rim up also if you hit it that hard. My boss would of sent the tire back for warranty to the tire maker and got you a new one. You shouldn't be out on this I don't think.
that is what I was thinking, we have a guy in my shop that was dismounting a 225/40zr17 mich ps2 and he ended up putting 2 hole in the side of the tire from the bead breaker and then he lied about it and said that he didn't know until he saw it when he was breaking it down and that is was like that. nice hey.
I am trying to get him fired but he has been here past probation so it is next to imposable to have him fired.
I just don't let him mount anything that could be hard to mount.
I am still trying to find a tire that is hard to mount, I have had a few that are interesting, but nothing that was that bad, granted we don't get alot of custom stuff because we have policies that don't allow us to do alot of things,
we also have some really nice machines that make it easier to mount tires, we can do up to a 30 inch rim with tires up to 44 inches,
I think that biggest I have done this year has been 22's on a suv, and lowest profile was something like a 225/35zr18 I think, now that one was fun.
TRD Cav Fire wrote:I'm sorry, but that is such Bull @!#$! I work for a tire place and I know how hard it is to mount a low profile 20 for a car. Almost every time I've seen us mount the really low profile tire that big it takes two people to do it. If you don't know what you are doing, or don't do it that often you well bake the bead of the tire. I think that is what happened is they broke the bead of the tire putting it on. If you where to brake a belt it would be across the tire not like that. I've not seen one that ever happen unless it was installed wrong. I think you got screwed saying you hit something. Cause it wouldn't of done that. It would of messed the rim up also if you hit it that hard. My boss would of sent the tire back for warranty to the tire maker and got you a new one. You shouldn't be out on this I don't think.
The pictures above don't show everything. I didn't notice at first, but the tire is kinda caved in like a "v", in one sport from the tread going on to the side wall. I'll be better shots later. I'm not saying I don't believe you, it's just that it "looks" like the belt is destroyed on the inside. I'll get some more shots of it after work.
Well yes the belts could be messed up from you driving on them with low air, but it was due to the fact someone messed up the bead on the tire installing them. There should be no air leaking on the side like that unless someone didn't seat the bead right, or the damaged it end of story. Anything that new my company would of just ordered you a tire and called it a day. No tire should mess up like that. Go to discount tire and you can buy certificates for free replacements that will cover everything up to 3/32 of tread.
Does do anything if someone cuts all there tires with a knife.
Ok, first off.. if there was a belt broken in one spot, it would not be leaking around the WHOLE bead like the picture is telling me.
You got fed a line of bullcrap. You paid for a new tire, and they are going to re-sell that old one and make even more money. AND, if you hit a hole that hard, a belt would have broken in the tread first, which would lead to a separation of the tire, causing some very bad tire wear. The tread will take most of the impact.
That leak however, if they are used wheels.. I agree with the crap on the bead, which they should have cleaned up.. it looks like your wheels might have chrome on them though? Could have been chipping chrome, I see it all the time.. even on factory wheels.
Not being seated right? Not so sure about that.. I've never had a problem with those kind of tires seating before, they might take alot of pressure to bead, but after that they are usually fine. And, whoever said it takes you two guys to do a 20" low pro tire, heh heh heh.. I can do those with my eyes closed by myself. Now, try doing a 26" low pro tire... holy CRAP that's ridiculous.
1983 Camaro Z28
ling427ttvette wrote:Ok, first off.. if there was a belt broken in one spot, it would not be leaking around the WHOLE bead like the picture is telling me.
You got fed a line of bullcrap. You paid for a new tire, and they are going to re-sell that old one and make even more money. AND, if you hit a hole that hard, a belt would have broken in the tread first, which would lead to a separation of the tire, causing some very bad tire wear. The tread will take most of the impact.
That leak however, if they are used wheels.. I agree with the crap on the bead, which they should have cleaned up.. it looks like your wheels might have chrome on them though? Could have been chipping chrome, I see it all the time.. even on factory wheels.
Not being seated right? Not so sure about that.. I've never had a problem with those kind of tires seating before, they might take alot of pressure to bead, but after that they are usually fine. And, whoever said it takes you two guys to do a 20" low pro tire, heh heh heh.. I can do those with my eyes closed by myself. Now, try doing a 26" low pro tire... holy CRAP that's ridiculous.
They wheels are brand new. They are also less than 3 months old. That wasn't the problem. Also, I already got a new tire. If I got fed bull or not about the situation, I'm just glad I got the wheel back on the car in general. It looks dumb as hell riding around with 3 20's and 1 18, lol.
I swallowed the fact of all the possibilities and I have just moved on. Currently they sell me all my tires at wholesale cost so it's not much of a lost. I just hope I don't experience anything like that tire related any time soon.
26's?? Let me tell ya, I was at the tire shop today and they were mounting a set of 305/30/26 Wanli's and it looked like "they" were have a good time. They were going on this car..
G.I. Joe? wtf? good to see you got the other 20 back on the car
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guys on here tried to help you and you just listened to the crap they fed you. should've listened to the org.
but then again, it's like you said. if your over it then that's all you. just remember people are out there that wanna help anytime.
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fpz24 (Akira) wrote:guys on here tried to help you and you just listened to the crap they fed you. should've listened to the org.
but then again, it's like you said. if your over it then that's all you. just remember people are out there that wanna help anytime.
Dont take it the wrong way. I did listen, but I had very little choice because 2 of the tires had no warranty. 1 of which went bad as you see the pics above. Its all good though. Thanks to all the ones who helped.
How much did you get the tires for EACH?? I would like to know what they tell you WHOLESALE is.
142 with no tax for Toyo Proxies 4 225/35/20. Same day shipping. I'm sure anywhere else would be very close to $200 easy.
Eternal wrote:142 with no tax for Toyo Proxies 4 225/35/20. Same day shipping. I'm sure anywhere else would be very close to $200 easy.
This included mounting and balancing. Good deal
Eternal wrote:fpz24 (Akira) wrote:guys on here tried to help you and you just listened to the crap they fed you. should've listened to the org.
but then again, it's like you said. if your over it then that's all you. just remember people are out there that wanna help anytime.
Dont take it the wrong way. I did listen, but I had very little choice because 2 of the tires had no warranty. 1 of which went bad as you see the pics above. Its all good though. Thanks to all the ones who helped.
The thing is, I firmly believe that tire was not bad.
1983 Camaro Z28
