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16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Thursday, May 31, 2007 6:47 PM
I’m on a quest to find 16” wheels that will fit over my 13” rotors and calipers. The manufacturer of the brake kit claims that 17” wheels or larger must be used but I am convinced that some 16” wheels will work. I found that Snowman has actually tested two different style stock 16” Cavalier wheels over the brake kit and surprisingly the inside diameter of the wheel actually clears the caliper but the spokes do not, which tells me there are some 16”s out there that will fit my car.

Does anyone know of any 16” wheels made to have clearance for big breaks? Or better yet, does anyone (local guys) have some 5X100 (57.1mm hub) 16” wheels I could test fit on my car?

Here are a couple pics of the stock 16”s over the brake kit.






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Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:14 PM
I dont think any other 16" rims will have more clearance...to do so would remove some of the metal used to make the outter rim, which greatly increases the chance of the wheels breaking..



Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:21 PM
My oldschool ADR's may, but they are long discontinued... Pic over wilwoods (I can get more if need be)... caliper should be about the same size as the Baers



If you can get a set of 16's with a lower offset (mine are 42mm), that might clear the caliper (may have to go w/ 40mm)









Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Friday, June 01, 2007 8:38 AM
did you just try using arp studs and a wheel spacer?



Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Friday, June 01, 2007 12:56 PM
meister 2s


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Re: 16
Friday, June 01, 2007 1:32 PM
its gonna be real close. i personally dont think they will fit because most wheels bulge in a little bit as u move outwards. regardless, if u want some "stock" looking wheels, try tire rack's sport edition or discount tire's rage wheels. i bought some rage wheels and my NW swap fits nicely, although its a real close fit with the caliper and the wheel weights on the inside of the rims.



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Re: 16
Friday, June 01, 2007 4:23 PM
i think when snowman tried my wheels , i think about a 1/4" spacers is what was needed to run the stock wheels

ive got a pair of enkei 5 spokes that clear the wilwoods , that i think would clear the 13's no problem






Re: 16
Monday, June 04, 2007 8:36 PM
there is a rim out there you just have to find it. lots of JDM companies make rims to fit larger brakes


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Re: 16
Saturday, June 09, 2007 6:51 PM
Problem with using spacers, is then the wheel is not sitting on the hub, its relying A LOT on the studs, not exactly a good thing.


Re: 16
Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:29 PM
Ever think about finding a CNC specialist to machine the little bit of the rim that hits the caliper? It can't be hitting by much and you would get to retain use of your stock wheels and not need hub rings or anything else.



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Re: 16
Monday, June 11, 2007 6:24 AM
It would be easier to grind some material off the caliper. Either way i'm still looking for rims that will fit without modification, i know they are out there.


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Re: 16
Monday, June 11, 2007 8:22 AM
i would think that a stock style wheel would work with a spacer.

you may need to put on longer studs, which seems like it woudnt be a problem for you. a stock style wheel has the drop center of the rim in the right position that would would need for this to work. alot of after market wheels have the drop center reversed from a stock style wheel and require the tire to be mounted with the spokes facing down rather than up.

i think you can do it without a problem, but longer studs and spacers may be necessary.



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Re: 16
Friday, June 22, 2007 12:01 PM
I have been looking for 16" wheels as well.. I have the ARP Fbody 2.5" wheel studs with 5/16" spacer.. Im going to see if I can borrow a buddies ls sport and Z rim to see if it fits on my 13" Baers as well..











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Re: 16
Friday, June 22, 2007 1:27 PM
Cool, let me know how that goes. You can always grind down a little of the caliper too for added clearance without hurting the structural integrity of the wheel.


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Re: 16
Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:06 PM
Well crap, no luck with the 16" z24 rims, or LS sport rims... The caliper hits the top of the INSIDE of the rims closest to the front of the spokes.



This pic, the rim isnt even on ALL the way, its cockeyed because of the caliper.


Soo, I guess we still gotta look elsewhere.











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Re: 16
Saturday, June 23, 2007 5:10 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:Here are a couple pics of the stock 16”s over the brake kit.




What the crap, how did this person get these wheels to fit? lol, I JUST tried the same exact wheels and they dont fit over the caliper..











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Re: 16
Saturday, June 23, 2007 6:41 PM
they're not on all the way, notice the brick



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Re: 16
Sunday, June 24, 2007 12:15 AM
Yeah, the studs arent even in the holes!



Re: 16
Sunday, June 24, 2007 2:01 PM
Contact CCW, they make wheels for mustangs and Supras that clear 13" brake kits. Thy might be able to help you out. Complete Custom Wheel is what ccw stand for. go to their online page and you might be able to get some info.
Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Sunday, June 24, 2007 3:38 PM
Skilz10179 wrote:I’m on a quest to find 16” wheels that will fit over my 13” rotors and calipers


Your quest is going to end with some 17" wheels


Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Tuesday, June 26, 2007 2:50 PM
get bigger rims cause it makes your car look like the late 90's grand prix with those brake dust covers....16's over sexy big brakes looks uber gay IMO

Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:00 PM
But in snow they are the only way to go. actualy 15's or 14's are best but 16's is the smallest capable of fitting those brakes.



Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Monday, July 02, 2007 10:19 PM
I have the factory Opt 16" rims on my 04 Sunfire GT. I looked at another GT with the standard 16" rims. The rims I have have more room around the caliper if you could find one in your area you could give it a try. It may be what you need.



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Re: 16" wheels over 13" brakes?
Thursday, July 05, 2007 5:09 AM
^^Do you have a picture of the wheel you have?










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Re: 16
Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:24 PM
WHITECAVY wrote:Well crap, no luck with the 16" z24 rims, or LS sport rims... The caliper hits the top of the INSIDE of the rims closest to the front of the spokes.



This pic, the rim isnt even on ALL the way, its cockeyed because of the caliper.


Soo, I guess we still gotta look elsewhere.
Nice wheels....




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