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Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Monday, December 11, 2006 11:12 PM
i need new tires bad. i have 3 friends and they have all told me that each of those 3 tires are sticky and do exceptional in the rain and they love them at the track.

what kind of feedback can you guys give me on these 3 tires.?

im looking for somthing solid at the local race track, great in the rain, with good handling to match my suspension. lets get a nice resourceful thread going here guys!

i would like to keep the discussion to these 3 only, but anyone that wants to mention other tires, feel free!

thanks!



- Cameron (CaliforniaCavalier)
- www.csc-motorsports.com




Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 9:30 AM
You mean BFGoodrich.

I have the BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDWS, they look like this:



Absolutely love them. I am running them in a 245/45Zr17 on the Camaro. Best tire I've ever ran. Plenty of other people on here will tell you the same. Some say the tires make a little road noise, I haven't heard any road noise at all.

A little pricy, but well worth it.



1983 Camaro Z28
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:23 PM
I have the Falken Ziex on mine. They're really good all-season tires really. Not too expensive either. I wouldn't exactly call them "sticky" but they do the job and do it well.



Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:26 PM
Pilz-E wrote:I have the Falken Ziex on mine. They're really good all-season tires really. Not too expensive either. I wouldn't exactly call them "sticky" but they do the job and do it well.


they are awesome in the wet and dry
i havent ever driven them in snow as they arent really rated super high for snow and ice




Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 12:35 PM
Goodyear Assurance Tripletread for myself. It's fairly sticky when i did race (drag, but race nonetheless), handles awesomely in rain (I do live in Seattle), and has great wear characteristics assuming you're not doing burnouts to impress the junior highschoolers.

The only thing I've noticed is they tend to feel a bit "soft" in curves, but don't lose traction.

No matter what, though, any gain in one area loses in another. Anything really sticky wears out fast, anything that wears well is usually harder and doesn't grip as well. Anything for pure grip in dry conditions in wet or icy conditions will be like using a Viper as a Zamboni, and so on.

If you're serious about racing, what I'd suggest is to get another set of rims for a pure track set of tires on it, and then another with a grocery getter set on them.

Personally, though, I have never used any of the three mentioned. The closest was the Yokohama AVS dB ones i had, which worked incredibnly well in wet conditions, were stricky and solid handling, but wore out really quick. My Tripletreads now have lasted a lot longer, have just as good rain handling, handle far better in ice, snow, and slush, but are slighly worse when it comes to dry conditions.

Hope this helped.


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Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:38 PM
Well, the problem with Goodyears Triple Tread tires is that they aren't made for performance handling. They are a good all season tire, that's pretty much it. They are designed for traction in the elements of the weather. Don't get me wrong, they are a good, good tire.. they wear great, I've never seen one seperate or wear irregularly at all. But, not really the kind of tire that he is looking for.



1983 Camaro Z28
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:31 PM
I like my Traction T/A's
Had them in the rain today, did nicely.





Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 5:41 PM
triple treads last a long time with a treadwear of like 860


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Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Tuesday, December 12, 2006 6:39 PM
I like my Falken Ziex ZE512 tires, they're a grippy all season tire that also works well in the rain.



2009 Ford Mustang V6
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:20 AM
possibly not, but again, my point was if you want a catch-all tire, you're going to have to sacrifice some areas that you weant, and it sounds like he wants a catch-all.

I would say prioritize what's the most important, and then go from there.


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2022 Kia Stinger GT2 AWD
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Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:05 AM
ling427ttvette wrote:You mean BFGoodrich.

I have the BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDWS, they look like this:



Absolutely love them. I am running them in a 245/45Zr17 on the Camaro. Best tire I've ever ran. Plenty of other people on here will tell you the same. Some say the tires make a little road noise, I haven't heard any road noise at all.

A little pricy, but well worth it.
Ewwwwww, I have the ones that look like this:



So badass looking. Only $125/each in my size.




Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:24 AM
Ive had the Falken Ziex ZE512 in a 215/55-16. I loved them. Good grip in the rain and dry. Only problem i had is that they wore out to quick. Didnt even have them a year and they were almost bald.

Just bought Some BFG Traction TA's same size. They feel a little more grippy than the falkens. Only complaint. No rim protector built into the tire like the falkens. Plus these shouldnt wear out as fast as they have a higher tread wear rating. But have a higher traction rating.
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:29 PM
i had a pair of the Falkens so thats my vote.





Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:39 PM
I've had ziex, but I now have g-force sports, and I would choose them.


-Chris

Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 1:47 PM
Go to the Tire Rack website and do a comparison. They often have tests that put one tire agianst another in a series of track tests. From my research and experience the Yokohama AVS ES100's are about as good as you can get for the price. They wear well and have great wet traction. Increase the tire pressure and they handle very well in the dry as well.(autocrossing)
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Wednesday, December 13, 2006 8:30 PM
JuggaloZeke wrote:
ling427ttvette wrote:You mean BFGoodrich.

I have the BFGoodrich G-Force T/A KDWS, they look like this:



Absolutely love them. I am running them in a 245/45Zr17 on the Camaro. Best tire I've ever ran. Plenty of other people on here will tell you the same. Some say the tires make a little road noise, I haven't heard any road noise at all.

A little pricy, but well worth it.
Ewwwwww, I have the ones that look like this:



So badass looking. Only $125/each in my size.


Looks weren't really my deciding choice. I think the KDW's are goofy looking anyway. If I chose a tire for looks of the tread, I would go with an Eagle F1. WONDERFUL looking tread design, with alot of performance to back it up.

Honestly, after these tires and everything others have said about BFG's, I will be using these as my next set. I have thought about Kumho Ecstas of some sort, but not sure yet.



1983 Camaro Z28
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Friday, December 15, 2006 9:02 AM
Kumho's aren't bad I had the ecsta supra 712's they're not to bad but wear quick for anyone who likes to take turns agressively.



2009 Ford Mustang V6
Re: Which is Best Tire?: Falken Ziex, BFGoodwrench gforce or yokohama avid
Friday, December 15, 2006 10:22 AM
i got this out of scc April 2006 (sport compact car), im only posting the ones the tested with handling (5/5), grip (5/5), 5 being the best, and price (5/5) 5 being priciest...

Continental ContiProContact

Class: All season UHP
UTQG: 400 AA A
Sizes: 18 from 185/65HR15 to 245/45HR18
Price: $$
Grip: * * *
Handling: * * *

Falken Azenis RT-615

Class: Max grip
UTQG: 250 A A
Sizes: 13 from 195/60HR14 to 275/35WR18
Price: $$$$
Grip: * * * * *
Handling: * * * * *

General Exclaim UHP

Class: UHP
UTQG: 380 AA A
Sizes: 21 from 205/45ZR16 to 255/35ZR20
Price: 0
Grip: * * *
Handling: * * *

Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212

Class: Max Grip
UTQG: 200 AA
Sizes: 16 from 195/60R14 to 225/40ZR18
Price: $$
Grip: * * * * *
Handling: * * * *

Hankook Ventus S1 evo K107

Class: Max Grip
UTQG: 280AA A
Sizes: 11 from 225/45ZR17 to 295/25ZR22
Price: $$
Grip: * * * *
Handling: * * * *

Nitto NT-01

Class: R-compound
UTQG: 100 AA A
Sizes: 10 from 205/55ZR14 to 315/30ZR18
Price: $$$$
Grip: * * * * *
Handling: * * * *

Toyo T1R

Class: Max Grip
UTQG: 280 AA A
Sizes: 83 form 195/45ZR15 to 275/30ZR20
Price: $
Grip: * * * *
Handling: * * * *

Vredestein Ultrac

Class: UHP
UTQG: 280 AA A
Sizes: 36 from 195/65R15 to 215/40ZR17
Price: $$$$
Grip: * * *
Handling: * * *

Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07

Class: Max Grip
UTQG: 180 AA A
Sizes: 14 from 175/55WR16 to 295/30WR18
Price: $$$$$
Grip: * * * *
Handling: * * * *

im looking to get the toyo T1R




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