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Reverse is a forward gear
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:16 AM
Just as the title says. I threw the car in reverse yesterday, and moved straight ahead. Am I in for a rebuild, or could this just be a 172,000 km 20 year old clutch on its way out? Its a Getrag HM-282 attached to a 3.1L V6...


2010 Honda Fit LX

Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 10:23 AM
wth?


lol





My car was made with wrenches, Not chopsticks.
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 5:31 PM
its deffinatly not your clutch if it was your clutch it would just slip. Is it an automatic? could be the linkage messed up somehow i have heard of that happening before but if its a standard i agree with the last guy wth? lol



Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:42 PM
It's definitely a manual. Either that or a very confusing automatic I haven't quite figured out yet? To explain a little further, I needed to move the car one way or another. Started with 1st, but the snow in my way wasn't making it easy, so I threw it in reverse and after a lot of spinning and revving and the shift light blinking like crazy, it shot forward about 10 feet.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:49 PM
sure you were in reverse not 4th?? are all the other gears good? when i bought my car it only had 3rd and 4th, like if u put in 1,3,5 were all 3rd and same with bottom gears, shift cable fell off



Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Thursday, January 06, 2011 11:21 AM
Pretty sure it wasn't 4th. 4th wouldn't have that much... drama when setting off. Although when you mention shift cables falling off, it makes me think it could have been second.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:09 PM
is this the first time you've moved the car?

have you driven it before?

kinda sounds like you're using the wrong shifter for the transmission.





Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:43 PM
This is the first time I've had to move it backwards. Id the shifter were replaced, you could be right. The year was misquoted on the original ad, and it was 1992 (the year quoted in the ad), which iirc was the same year GM switched from the Muncie to the NVG trans.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Thursday, January 06, 2011 9:45 PM
I just remembered that I do have a spare trans, but its an automatic. So if it isn't feasible to fix, I can swap to a 3 speed auto.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Friday, January 07, 2011 2:18 AM
Tony,

the only reason I suggest the shifter is because if it was replaced with the wrong part, it could change your shift pattern.

when you move the stick left and right, it actuates an L-shaped arm (I call it the side-arm) that pushes or pulls on a cable.
the stick itself is attached to the fore and aft cable, so messing that up is impossible... we're focusing on the sidearm here..


depending on which way the sidearm is facing, and which side the pivot is on, will effect whether it pushes or pulls the cable by pulling it towards you.

So, say your old shifter had the sidearm PUSHING the cable while pulling the stick towards you... shift pattern is normal

1 3 5
N
2 4 R

If somehow the replacement shifter had the sidearm PULLING the cable while pulling the stick towards you, the shift pattern would be this:

5 3 1
N
R 4 2

a simple test of the theory would be to put the car into "second gear" position and see if it reverses.

thats the best I got tho.. if that isn't it, I'm not sure what your problem is.




Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Friday, January 07, 2011 3:57 PM
so essentially if you converted to RHD the bottom would be mirrored as if you were on the driver side?




Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Friday, January 21, 2011 10:36 PM
Turns out reverse is done. It's still there, but something feels wrong with the gear itself. So... What cars have the old getrags in them? Is there another gearbox I can use? Probably the NVG? What about newer J transmissions?


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Sunday, January 30, 2011 5:07 PM
BuiltNBoosted wrote:so essentially if you converted to RHD the bottom would be mirrored as if you were on the driver side?


accually most RHDs are still the same 135 pattern like our cars atleast the couple i have seen



JBO since July 30, 2001
Re: Reverse is a forward gear
Sunday, February 13, 2011 6:09 PM
Okay, so this is an old post, but I finally have resolution! I talked to the previous owner by chance today, and she told me the linkage for reverse just needs to be reattached. The $50 cav lives on! If it weren't so damn dark out tonight, I'd be out there getting to work.

Side note - I've now stripped the interior to clean in there, and I found @!#$ cat litter under the back seat. Gross. On the plus side, once the seats dry out, they're clean and ready to go back in, I just need a new shop vac to get the carpet done, then take the Little Green to it.


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