Adler wrote:
LOL, yea. Come and knife my tires.....childish threats & games.
ok well as i mentioned, i wasnt going to give out any names. i dont like to treat people like an @!#$ till they have proven themself to be one.
but if he wants to announce himself i have no control over that.....
so for all who care... here is the email i sent him after finding all the damage....
Ok Well DSS says they will look at them and fix what ever need be fixed.
They say if ALL it needs is the cracked inner ball carrier, then the bill should be about $175. Also it is $50 per axle to add the ABS rings on.
So after shipping and all... it will cost me about $300 to get these axles to the point you told me they were already at. and that is assuming that everything else is ok.
So here is your last chance to redeem yourself. You pay me the $300 to fix these, or refund me $300 of my purchase, how ever you want to look at it (i am willing to settle on $300 now, even knowing the bill could be much higher).. and we can just pretend this never happened, and go on our seperate ways.
Or if you want to stick by your lies and continue to act like a piece of @!#$ used car salesman, and sell people your broken crap, and make up stories, and tell them "you must have broken it, it was fine when i had them" then i will have to make sure that i warn everyone of the kind of @!#$ you pull on people, and make sure you dont get a chance to @!#$ anyone else like you did to me.
I dont like being @!#$ with, and can be a real @!#$... so just be sure of your decision here.
then this is what i got from him...
Well, I guess that you can go ahead and post your crybaby story on jbody.org or wherever you plan to post it. It does not bother me. You can talk all the @!#$ that you want about me.....its the INTERNET, no big deal.
I am sorry about the ABS tone rings, that was my fault.....I was considering on helping you out with some of the stuff until I read your last paragraph, and the little childish threat that you made on jbody.org. Slashing tires...are you still in middle school?
If I was planning to screw you over, would I have agreed to pay extra for the 2-3 day shipping that you asked for? Would I have payed extra to have the axles shipped in the boxes with all of the cushion?
How as I suppose to know that the internals in the CV were damanged? I told you that I had ran them at the track on slicks. You knew that those RACING parts had been beaten on. Warrenty or money back on used racing parts? You need start to using some common sense, son.
I have sold plenty of parts on jbody.org in the last 7 years and have never screwed or had the intention to screw anyone over.
the line about "its the internet, no big deal" says alot here.... just as he doesnt care what i post on the forum about him, since it is "just the internet" must mean it isnt real and not anything to worry about.... the same logic is refelcted in his i dont give a @!#$ about the people i @!#$ over by selling busted parts. because of course this is just a forum on the internet... we are not real people... i didnt spend $350 of real money on his real broken parts. and it isnt really going to cost me $300 more to fix the broken parts. come on... it is the internet.. who cares, tell all the lies you want, screw over anyone you feel like... it is just the internet.
sorry to tell you buddy... but the internet may be "virtual" but the people sitting on the other side of the computer are very much real. the fact there was a forum and emails involved in the transaction dont make the whole thing magically become fiction.
oh and your right... i DID know they were used racing parts... but i also know that they are designed to handle 500hp. and not many cavaliers put out more that 500hp... so not many of these axles should be damaged to this extent by "a few runs down the track and 2000miles total"
and you might want to look thru your emails again.... because you failed to EVER mention the fact that these axles were DESTROYED once, and had to be fully rebuilt by the manufacturer. that lil trivial detail didnt come out until after i told you about the damage i found. to jog your memory....
Like I said before, before I pulled those axles out of my car, they were fine. There were not any noises coming from the axles while driving straight nor turning. I pulled the axles off of my car because there was bottom end noise coming from the motor, and decided to put the car back to stock and sell everything.
Those axles held up to my launching on the slicks with no problem. If there were any problems with those axles while I had them, I am pretty sure that I would have found out.
I am almost positive that the previous owner did not take the axles apart. He sent them back to DSS after they broke on him at the track. I think that something in the inner CV failed....I cant remember exactly. The splines on both outer CVs were twisted, as well as the splines in the hubs. Both axles were sent to DSS to have everything fixed. If I remember correctly, both outer CVs were replaced, hubs were replaced and heat treated, they changed one or maybe both of the bars with a stronger material, and fixed whatever else had failed. This was done maybe 3 years ago, so they still might have everything on file. Mike Karas was the original owner, and I believe that he talked to Frank at DSS.
The only thing that I can tell you to do is to contact DSS.
that was the first time you mentioned anything about previous damage.... up until then all you told me was....
I actually bought them from Mike Karas....he had them on his Cavalier. He put less than 1,000 miles on them. He went to the track twice with them. I bought them from Mike and put 800-1000 miles on them before I sold everything off of my car. I went to the 1/4th mile track 3-4 times with those axles.
that is how you described them to me when i asked if you got them new from DSS. from that description, any person with half a brain would think "oh wow, those things must be like brand new... less than 2000 miles on them... and only 6 passes at the track... that gives the impression they are pretty much virgin axles.... and the bits about them being busted and rebuilt, and a torn boot, and cracked CV and then sitting in a basement for 3 years rusting... none of that was worth mentioning at the time of sale...
maybe i have some warped sence of honesty... but somehow i dont think many people would feel your pre-sale description was anywhere close to honest and accurate.
I would love to hear some other peoples takes on this....
yes, my comment about tire slashing wasnt the most mature thing to say, but when someone steals $300 dollars out of your wallet, and 2 weeks of your time... maturity isnt the first thing on your mind.
