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100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:27 AM
Ok, so I have a confession to make:

One day me and a friend are travelling back from the cottage when he mentions that his car will not allow him to put his shifter into first gear at such a high speed (approx. 100km/h) even with his clutch pedal pressed down (some safety feature). Of course i decide that i should try this and find out on my 95 Cavalier 5spd. I figured with my basic understanding of transmissions that with the clutch down the worst i could do is a little grinding. Well i tried it, at first the shifter did not want to go into place and i figured it had this so called safety feature. So i decided to push a little harder just make sure. Now it happened real fast and i can't be sure if i ever actually made it into 1st or pulled into neutral right away. But i heard some of the Worst grinding i'd ever experienced however, i heard no other noises. At no point did i release the clutch, but now there is no power getting from my engine to the wheels in any gear (1-5 and reverse). My shifter can not rotate in a circle, it seems to select all gears and my clutch feels exactly as it did before. I put my friend in the driver seat and had him play with the shifter as i looked at the gear box, the rods and connectors seem to be moving around just as before. I ever pushed the car with him playing around hoping to pop something into place.

If anyone has any ideas where i should start looking i'd love to hear em. I do most of my own mechanical work with my father in our driveway, and i do not relish the idea of attempting a tranny drop with out a lift. And my car is borderline not worth paying someone else to do it. It would be sad to see her go :,(
But i am willing to try just about anything short of a tranny swap, i love to tinker.

P.S. I towed it all the way from cottage country behind my dads mini van with a rope while i steered ... i found it comical

Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:41 AM
What in the hell is the world comming too...

does teh car in fact go into gear? (try pushing it while the car is off...in gear and in neutral)


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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM
I have tried pushing the car in all combinations of: with and with out the clutch in, in all gears, forwards and backwards.
Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:53 AM
does it feel like it is in gear or neutral?


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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:57 AM
neutral, all gears are neutral.
Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 9:59 AM
Omfg noobs. How much more rutarded can you be? You probably @!#$ up the teeth on your gears or a linkage possibly inside the trans. Your @!#$, go pay a shop $1000 to put in a new transmission for you, make sure its an auto so you can't @!#$ it up, just dont do any north dakota drops.


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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 10:02 AM
LOL thank you for stating the obvious ... i just figured some people could use a laugh and maybe stumble upon a solution.
Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 10:27 AM
You need a new tranny, that grinding you heard was the syncros.



Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 10:30 AM
the solution: turn in your license. you have no right to have it if you thought this was a good idea to even try.



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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 11, 2008 10:41 AM
* roll



Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:11 AM
It's not even funny, its retarded how you thought you could do that.


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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Monday, August 18, 2008 11:18 PM
why on earth would one even consider an attempt at such a task? did you honestly think that it would NOT mess up something? im not trying to be a jerk, but really... my girlfriend who cannot drive a stick read this and said it was a stupid idea, among some adjectives for anyone who would do this.


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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:33 AM
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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:18 AM
This was probably right after the Mythbusters episode where they tried out the theory that you could stop a car faster than braking by popping it into reverse gear at speed. They also tried "park" with an automatic. In their case, neither car would allow it.




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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 1:13 PM
You can put the selector in park but the park pawl wont engage until about 2 MPH. It cant because it doesnt have enough time to, but when it does @!#$s going to fly.



Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:10 PM
Hey man, i just grenaded my tranny on an 03 5 spd cavy, my car had the same symptons as yours did, after i shifted hard from 1st to second. I am now swapping my tranny, you got no choice. What were you thinin lol, preddy funny stunt!
Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:16 AM
wow.....nice.

next time try to put it in reverse......maybe that one will work.





Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
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Re: 100km/h in 1st gear ... once
Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:22 PM
so.... what was the point?!?! thats like deciding to yank the wheel goin 80 you just know it wont turn out to good



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