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Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 8:47 AM
Well, my NVG tranny bit the dust. I believe the syncro for 2nd gear went out. I can shift into second at RPM's below 2K, but anything higher and it just grinds and won't go in. I don't feel like fixin' it, so the '01 Getrag trans in my garage with 14K on it is looking pretty good. Only thing is I need a clutch.

I had a SPEC Stage 2 clutch for the NVG trans and had nothing but trouble with it. Went through two clutch disks and a pressure plate. They replaced everything, even out of warranty, and it works good now, but I'd rather not go with SPEC again. What are my other options? The car is supercharged right now with the M45, but will probably be turbo'd by next spring. I'm shooting for around 300 HP, so I'm guessing I need a stage 3 clutch.

I do have a stock clutch for it right now. Think that would hold up to the M45 S/C for the time being until I can get some more money next year to buy a staged one?



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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 8:53 AM
Check out Never Enough Auto Accessories and give them a call they carry many clutches. www.neverenoughauto.com
Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 10:00 AM
Honestly the SPEC Stage 1 is the best way to go for the money. You get a Pressure plate, disc, TOB/slave and alignment tool. For the price and everything you get it is most likely your best best.


-Aaron
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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 10:03 AM
But the stage 3 is only $50 more, is it not? And stage 1 isn't going to be enough for when I go turbo next summer...



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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 12:15 PM
I will never own another SPEC again, went through 4 clutches total, 3 on this car, one on my 98. Personally I'm going with Bully Clutch for my next one, but they are expensive, $800 for a Stage IV.





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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 12:25 PM
Luke Heier wrote:But the stage 3 is only $50 more, is it not? And stage 1 isn't going to be enough for when I go turbo next summer...


True, if you can do it right the first time and save some $


Also if you get the "+" series SPEC clutch kits, we have never heard one compliant, I run one and would never use any other kit. The "+" series are designed for series high HP cars (Over 250 HP IMO)


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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 5:32 PM
Damn, that's alot of money for a Bully clutch. I tried looking on their website, but their site and product layout is poorly designed. Hard to find what I need. Also, no descriptions for torque specs.

Aaron, is the warranty any different on the "+" series compared to the regular ones?



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1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 6:31 PM
clamping force


Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 6:34 PM
err, torque capacity... a stage 3+ can handle more torque than a stage 4 for example, but is supposed to feel/drive like a normal stage 3... sprung and unsprung hub difference.


Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 6:36 PM
My SPEC stage2 is AWESOME!!!



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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 8:40 PM
I just got my trans swap done (Isuzu to Getrag), and in doing so, downgraded in clutches from SPEC Stage 3, to SPEC Stage 2. For me personally, there's a huge difference. The Stage 3 grabbed like a mother#%$^@!, whereas the Stage 2, though it does it's job, is a little more casual about it. I'm not saying by any means that the Stage 2 sucks, but even if the price for the Stage 3 was a considerable amount more, I would fork out the cash and go the Stage 3 route.

But, that's just my opinion, and right now, I hate all J-Body transmissions and anything to do with them... LOL






Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 20, 2007 9:14 PM
HELFENBEIN wrote:I just got my trans swap done (Isuzu to Getrag), and in doing so, downgraded in clutches from SPEC Stage 3, to SPEC Stage 2. For me personally, there's a huge difference. The Stage 3 grabbed like a mother#%$^@!, whereas the Stage 2, though it does it's job, is a little more casual about it. I'm not saying by any means that the Stage 2 sucks, but even if the price for the Stage 3 was a considerable amount more, I would fork out the cash and go the Stage 3 route.

But, that's just my opinion, and right now, I hate all J-Body transmissions and anything to do with them... LOL


How do you like the Getrag trans?



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1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:33 AM
Compare SPEC Stage 2 to stock clutch...


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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:48 PM
Luke Heier wrote:How do you like the Getrag trans?

As long as it's not busted already like my Isuzu was, then it's pretty good. First gear, in my opinion, is still useless on this transmission. Third and fourth gears though are great, especially for boost. I've thrown quite a bit at this transmission already (pretty high revs and 20 PSI of boost last night), and there's yet to be any kind of issue. To reiterate though, I pretty much hate both first and second on both transmissions (more so first though), but overall the difference wasn't as noticeable as the downgrade in clutches was. Right now I'm banking more on the fact that the Getrag is purportedly able to take significantly more of beating than the Isuzu before dying, and if that holds true, buying one Getrag in the time you would have bought three Isuzus is a far greater benefit than any driveability gains.




Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Thursday, August 23, 2007 6:13 AM
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:Honestly the SPEC Stage 1 is the best way to go for the money. You get a Pressure plate, disc, TOB/slave and alignment tool. For the price and everything you get it is most likely your best best.


why does everyone think you need to upgrade clutch's?

My OE clutch lasted longer than my tranny did, (120K) bracked raced cuting 2.0 60' for 2 years, when i replaced my tranny it looked great, had a broken spring, but i atest that to how i drove it. Brian (speedracerZ) ran his Turbo Z24 at 15 LBS and 12.8 1\4 MI with a stock clutch...

I HATE my spec S II, the disc is really graby, but the preser plate is a joke, if i blow really hard, i swear the clutch pedle will go down.

Both my old 91 AWD DSM and my 1992 Q-4 HO GTZ have\had a LUK clutch. when i replace the one in the Z24 that is what i am runing with.

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:51 PM
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:
Turbo Tech Racing wrote:Honestly the SPEC Stage 1 is the best way to go for the money. You get a Pressure plate, disc, TOB/slave and alignment tool. For the price and everything you get it is most likely your best best.


why does everyone think you need to upgrade clutch's?

My OE clutch lasted longer than my tranny did, (120K) bracked raced cuting 2.0 60' for 2 years, when i replaced my tranny it looked great, had a broken spring, but i atest that to how i drove it. Brian (speedracerZ) ran his Turbo Z24 at 15 LBS and 12.8 1\4 MI with a stock clutch...

I HATE my spec S II, the disc is really graby, but the preser plate is a joke, if i blow really hard, i swear the clutch pedle will go down.

Both my old 91 AWD DSM and my 1992 Q-4 HO GTZ have\had a LUK clutch. when i replace the one in the Z24 that is what i am runing with.

Chris


Stage 1 is OEM equvalant, that is what I was getting at.... It just includes everything you need... Maybe cheaper than a local auto parts store piecing it all together.


-Aaron
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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:38 PM
what store would piece a clutch KIT together?

Chris


'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 27, 2007 5:35 AM
Taetsch Z-24 wrote:what store would piece a clutch KIT together?

Chris


Autozone to get the clutch kit (pressure plate and disc) then off to a GM dealer for a Slave TOB.... That is what I meant.


-Aaron
www.TurboTechRacing.com

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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Monday, August 27, 2007 5:24 PM
I have a Center Force Dual Friction and i love it on my 01..



Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:39 AM
turbo tech only says up to 99,.... where shoud i look for a 2001 z24 clutch? its daily driven but also raced so i need soemthin reliable preferably either stage 2 or 3



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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:53 AM
Email me with you inquiry, I will get you the correct part, or get it added online... Aaron@TurboTechRacing.com

If you are looking for a Centerforce let me know, otherwise I believe all the SPEC brand clutch kits are listed online..


-Aaron
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Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Thursday, October 18, 2007 2:18 PM
i love my spec stage 3, ive felt stage 2's and by comparison id never get one, the stage 3 just grabs like a mo-fo, and u plan on the turbo id go with that one man. plus you dont live in a traffic infested area now do you, im always goin through the twin cities and it can be a bit rough but i can live with it.



Re: Good Clutch for Getrag Trans?
Friday, October 19, 2007 12:48 PM
Shifted wrote:I will never own another SPEC again, went through 4 clutches total, 3 on this car, one on my 98. Personally I'm going with Bully Clutch for my next one, but they are expensive, $800 for a Stage IV.



X4 with the spec JUNK


CenterForce is a LUK Clutch with a different friction material on the presser plate side.

BUT my next clutch will probably be a piece together, LUK Gold plate, and a some ceramic disc with friction material all around (not in pads like spec S2\3).


If I need on it guess.

Chris



'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08

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