I was talking to a mechanic about trick shift ATF and he all but begged me not to use it. He says the fluid works because it contains tiny abrasive particles which eat away at your tranmission over time. He claims he's seem more than a few transmissions junked by that stuff and that he wouldn't let the stuff anywhere near his cars. I took his advice and bought Mobil1 ATF instead. You guys hear anything similar?
2002 Cavalier 2200 5spd
never heard good or bad, but when in dought you can never go wrong Mobil 1 products
You would have no problems using it in the three speed, but don't use it in the four speed. The 4T40E need the recomended viscosity for the clutches to get the specified grip, or thet will burn out. The 3T40/TH125C uses the older type valving and clutch material. Infact It's best to use the original Trick Shift in the 3sp, to reduce slippage and wear on the clutches. Same as in the 60s & 70s for Type F for drag racing.
The original Trick Shift is a Dexron II/Type F equivalent, with fewer friction modifiers than Dexron II and more stabilizers and anti-foaming agents than Type F fluid.
Synthetic Trick Shift is a synthetic Dexron III, that has the better heat stability and anti-foaming agents, but fewer friction modifiers than regular Dexron III sythetic fluids.
Solid Snake wrote:I was talking to a mechanic about trick shift ATF and he all but begged me not to use it. He says the fluid works because it contains tiny abrasive particles which eat away at your tranmission over time. He claims he's seem more than a few transmissions junked by that stuff and that he wouldn't let the stuff anywhere near his cars. I took his advice and bought Mobil1 ATF instead. You guys hear anything similar?
pffft please what a load of @!#$... it has different frictional qualitys than a regular dextron but does NOT have tiny particles in the oil.... Its basically the same as Type F trans fluid.
I've used just about every brand there is, i stick with my mobil 1 AFT (full synthetic stuff) and my Type F depending on the trans.
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I have it in my 2001 5 speed and it is great!! I know a few people to use it in there auto J's and also loved it. Also known people to use it in other cars with no complaints.
FU Tuning
i had it in my 99 trans am when i had it and i liked it. but a 4l60-e is a bit different then what we have
GM syncromesh for my 5 spd
^ agreed. i tried it all and the gm stuff shifted the best.
this is old post yea yea, wtvr. but for sure its ok to use in a 98 2200 3speed with a filter change? i used to use this is my 89 truck worked great! but it says on the bottle not for newer cars, i consider a 98 newer....
thanks for the replies you fawkers!
trick shift is Dex-II, synthetic trick shift is Dex-III the tec is right using it in newer (98 is newer) can lead to warn clutches, planetary gears, sun gear, sprag....so on.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
so CAN use trick shift but just not the synthetic in the old 3 speed?
Vincent Morris wrote:GM syncromesh for my 5 spd
I thought Syncromesh wasn't ATF though, the Getrag requires ATF.
On a side note, I have tried just about every Synthetic ATF out there in the Getrag. I prefer Hurst Trick Shift, Mobile 1 wasn't bad either. Tried the B&M recently and didn't seem as smooth as the Trick Shift.
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hurst is HOT SHIFT B&M is trick shift just for clarification. still no straight answer, but ok ill use factory CRAP in it. lol just my 4t40e has the shiftplus and shifts nice even on stock the 3 speed just sucks monkey balls in the sun of arizona on a hot day that came out of a donkeys ass while it was doing a donkey show taping.
DJ Beefy wrote:hurst is HOT SHIFT B&M is trick shift just for clarification. still no straight answer, but ok ill use factory CRAP in it. lol just my 4t40e has the shiftplus and shifts nice even on stock the 3 speed just sucks monkey balls in the sun of arizona on a hot day that came out of a donkeys ass while it was doing a donkey show taping.
Right-o should not be drunk posting.
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Trick Shift fluid is just marked up, and dyed Type F fluid. You can get the same stuff at the Dollar Store for a buck.
BlackEco wrote:Vincent Morris wrote:GM syncromesh for my 5 spd
I thought Syncromesh wasn't ATF though, the Getrag requires ATF.
You are correct.
the thicker oil in the F23... BAD BAD BAD.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
